Newest family member

[betty]

awesome messa!! congrats on the new family member! sooooooooo adorable!!!!!

[Gaidin]

If you don't mind the question Von, whats the going rate on them now?  What breeder did you use?

[GNucks]

That eighth pic in the OP... boy does she have some sharp puppy-teeth!  I'd have a blast playing with that dog, I can tell. Man I miss my dogs' puppy years.

[VonMessa]

If you don't mind the question Von, whats the going rate on them now?  What breeder did you use?

A long-time family friend.  She has known me since I was a puppy  

http://jolinkennel.com/

As for price, I couldn't tell you for certain.  Somewhere around $1500.  Less for a "pet" quality dog (meaning you know the breeding, but you don't get papers or get to breed it)  Not a lesser quality dog, just limited on how you can use it.  She is very careful about her clients, especially with the caliber of dogs she sells.

As for my price?  Like I said, I've known her for 30 years and used to hep my mom train her dogs for the PA State police.  Let's just say that it was a good deal  

[morfiend]

 Ya Von a monkeyfist!!


  I should have known someone a shrude as you doesnt need any tips from me!



   BTW,I sold my "pet" quality dogs with papers if the owner desired but had a strict nonbreeding contract,you try to breed and you loose ownership of the dog.Later on I demanded the dogs be spayed or neutered before 1 year of age.

  Your breeder/friend is just protecting her lines,smart of her,it takes years to develope a "type" and unfortunately it usually cost you way more than you can ever make by selling pups to do this. I'd bet she can recall every pup and where it went and keeps intouch with the owners,most good breeders follow this patern as you sure arent doing it for the money!

  1500$$ might sound like alot of money for a dog but it's about average these days for any quality dog and a down right bargain for some. I only ever made money on 1 dog,he sold for 5 grand of which I got half as per breeding agreement,his sire was the #1 bullterrier in the world at the time.    But that was 25 years ago!!!


   Von,I sure wouldnt want to enter your house univited in about a year or so!



     

[VonMessa]

Ya Von a monkeyfist!!


  I should have known someone a shrude as you doesnt need any tips from me!



   BTW,I sold my "pet" quality dogs with papers if the owner desired but had a strict nonbreeding contract,you try to breed and you loose ownership of the dog.Later on I demanded the dogs be spayed or neutered before 1 year of age.

  Your breeder/friend is just protecting her lines,smart of her,it takes years to develope a "type" and unfortunately it usually cost you way more than you can ever make by selling pups to do this. I'd bet she can recall every pup and where it went and keeps intouch with the owners,most good breeders follow this patern as you sure arent doing it for the money!

  1500$$ might sound like alot of money for a dog but it's about average these days for any quality dog and a down right bargain for some. I only ever made money on 1 dog,he sold for 5 grand of which I got half as per breeding agreement,his sire was the #1 bullterrier in the world at the time.    But that was 25 years ago!!!


   Von,I sure wouldnt want to enter your house univited in about a year or so!



     

That's why I got a female.  Not as territorial as a male.  More protective of the folks inside the house, as opposed to, the property.

Like you said, you might get in uninvited, but you won't get out 

[Pigslilspaz]

Love German Shepherds, but Labs are where it's at. My friend was raising one for duck hunting but was too afraid of gunshots to keep doing it, even after trying most everything to desensitize the fear, poor thing.

[B4Buster]

adorable, Von!

[jeep00]

Nice lookin pup. Had to wait to get home to see the pics, congrats!

Bob

[Babalonian]

Love German Shepherds, but Labs are where it's at. My friend was raising one for duck hunting but was too afraid of gunshots to keep doing it, even after trying most everything to desensitize the fear, poor thing.

Some dogs are just that way.  I have an Australian Shepherd/Border Collie mix (we think) at the moment, great dog, but is _extremely_ sensitive to gunshots, even ones bouncing down a canyon/valley from miles away.  And I mean he gets very scared, to the point you end up with a 70-pound lapdog inviting himself to your seat or bed, or a 70-pound gopher trying to burrow under the chair your sitting in (with only enough capacity below it for 30-pounds of dog).

I feel sorry for him too, but only because I think he's trying his hardest not to s!@# or p!@# himself while inside if he hears one.

[mechanic]

great addition to the family, you can teach her to gaurd your beer stash  

[Penguin]

Cute as a button, but she'll grow up to be a fierce lady.

-Penguin

[morfiend]

That's why I got a female.  Not as territorial as a male.  More protective of the folks inside the house, as opposed to, the property.

Like you said, you might get in uninvited, but you won't get out 

  I agree Von,I tend to keep females for house dogs but the males tend to be better at the shows! Now if you have a real showy female then you have the best of both worlds.
          Von if you let her have a litter of pups,you'll then see the protective side kick in bigtime.

  Years ago I had a bully that would let you in but you couldnt leave....   If we left you unattended  for any length of time she would take you by the hand and escort you to the mat at the front door as thats where strangers belonged. She did this to many people and on occassion I'd leave a friend alone just long enough for her to decide that it's time for this person to stand on the mat...... She also had a neat trick with money but you had to give her 10 bucks to see her do it!  It was beer money after her trick.



   

[ink]

that's no APBT....... but she is cute enough 

[betty]

Morfiend....im getting my boys trained so i can get them to take the canine good citizen cert. test. I cant wait. They already know over half the  stuff on the test.