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Offline titanic3

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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2012, 09:39:55 PM »
That has nothing to do with stating that if x side gets a plane then y side will need one too.


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Seriously, I'm all up for more planes, and it has EVERYTHING to do with "if x side gets a plane then y side will need one too". If the Axis get one, then the Allies can get a new one after, if the Allies can get one, then the Axis can get a new one after. 
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Don't have to be a jerk and shuts everyone else's wish down if you don't like it.

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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2012, 10:04:42 PM »
It doesn't follow.  The Allies don't need the Meteor because the Axis have the Me262.

If you want the G.55, Do335 or He162, make a post requesting those, don't hijack a thread about the P-63 or suggest some false tit for tat requirements.  Advocate for those on their own merits, not as an anti-P-63.
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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2012, 06:36:33 PM »
That has nothing to do with stating that if x side gets a plane then y side will need one too.

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Personally I don't want to see the P-63 because, if the numbers are accurate, it will simply be another plane that people run away in.

Wouldnt that mean it's also another plane to chase the people that run away then too? :)

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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2012, 06:49:10 PM »
Wouldnt that mean it's also another plane to chase the people that run away then too? :)
Only for those who like it.  For me it is just another plane that will run from me, or one that will hold all the performance cards over mine.
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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2012, 01:30:16 AM »
I got some pictures of the only flying example in San Marcos

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Actually there are other flyers out there.  At least two that I can think of.  And the one in the photos hasn't flown in a bit as they've been working on it, but it's close to flying again.  The nicest one was restored for former Astronaut Frank Boreman.  He has since sold it, but it was as stock as you could take it and an absolutely beautiful restoration.  Planes of Fame has one also in Arizona I believe.

There are some others that will hopefully be restored in time also, including some recovered from the Kurile Isles.  First warbird I ever saw fly was a racing P-63 "Tipsy Miss" that has since been destroyed in a crash.  The 63 is a beautiful bird.  It wouldn't be top of my AH list, but I wouldn't argue if it showed up :)

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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2012, 01:35:41 AM »
Actually there are other flyers out there.  At least two that I can think of.  And the one in the photos hasn't flown in a bit as they've been working on it, but it's close to flying again.  The nicest one was restored for former Astronaut Frank Boreman.  He has since sold it, but it was as stock as you could take it and an absolutely beautiful restoration.  Planes of Fame has one also in Arizona I believe.

There are some others that will hopefully be restored in time also, including some recovered from the Kurile Isles.  First warbird I ever saw fly was a racing P-63 "Tipsy Miss" that has since been destroyed in a crash.  The 63 is a beautiful bird.  It wouldn't be top of my AH list, but I wouldn't argue if it showed up :)



I think it's flying now, or it will be very shortly. It is scheduled to be at an airshow on April 14th.
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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2012, 01:37:01 AM »
They also have a P39 that they are working on too. It hit some approach lights and did some pretty major damage. The B25 "Yellow Rose" is out of the same squadron, and I think they finally got the engine gremlins worked out.
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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2012, 04:11:38 PM »
Que Sgt pappy and karnak with the negativity.
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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2012, 05:07:38 AM »
 I know that you are most likely not wishing for this, but the chances of it being accepted is very nil. It saw either VERY VERY limited combat or none at all. Some say it was deployed in Soviet Russia, but never used. Other people believe that it was used in Manchuria, even if it was used in Manchuria it would be very slim; could be false.

Here's a source that I have found, giving credit for ONE Japanese aircraft shot down.
http://www.americancombatplanes.com/p63_1.html

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All this production and delivery effort resulted in the destruction of only one Axis plane, a Japanese fighter shot down during the invasion of Manchuria.
You can find that in ¶ Eleven.

Anyhow their are many many topics created for this specific plane, almost fifteen. Before you post you should gather information on past posts, I'm not backseat modding or anything but I hope you absorb my constructive criticism through osmosis.

Now this is from Wikipedia on the topic of the P-63.

I don't trust Wikipedia, but they're usually right about the models, if I were you I'd wish for the P-39K it has around 125 more HP than the normal models, I'm not sure of it's operational history though. Also I think since they tried to complete the P-40 line they definitely should complete the P-39s.

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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2012, 02:46:06 PM »
I know that you are most likely not wishing for this, but the chances of it being accepted is very nil. It saw either VERY VERY limited combat or none at all. Some say it was deployed in Soviet Russia, but never used. Other people believe that it was used in Manchuria, even if it was used in Manchuria it would be very slim; could be false.

Here's a source that I have found, giving credit for ONE Japanese aircraft shot down.
http://www.americancombatplanes.com/p63_1.html
You can find that in ¶ Eleven.

Anyhow their are many many topics created for this specific plane, almost fifteen. Before you post you should gather information on past posts, I'm not backseat modding or anything but I hope you absorb my constructive criticism through osmosis.

Now this is from Wikipedia on the topic of the P-63.

I don't trust Wikipedia, but they're usually right about the models, if I were you I'd wish for the P-39K it has around 125 more HP than the normal models, I'm not sure of it's operational history though. Also I think since they tried to complete the P-40 line they definitely should complete the P-39s.

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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2012, 09:02:46 PM »
I know that you are most likely not wishing for this, but the chances of it being accepted is very nil. It saw either VERY VERY limited combat or none at all. Some say it was deployed in Soviet Russia, but never used. Other people believe that it was used in Manchuria, even if it was used in Manchuria it would be very slim; could be false.

Here's a source that I have found, giving credit for ONE Japanese aircraft shot down.
http://www.americancombatplanes.com/p63_1.html
You can find that in ¶ Eleven.

Anyhow their are many many topics created for this specific plane, almost fifteen. Before you post you should gather information on past posts, I'm not backseat modding or anything but I hope you absorb my constructive criticism through osmosis.


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No more than (and probably less than) 43 Ta 152H types were built. They attained 5 kills, maybe 7 for 4 losses. It's in the game.

Over 2,000 P-63s were in Soviet squadron service by war's end, and saw combat against Japan in the last weeks of the war. Several former Soviet officers have claimed that the P-63A was evaluated in combat on the eastern front against the Luftwaffe. Some former Luftwaffe pilots report encountering a new model of the P-39 in late 1944 with remarkable performance.

The P-63 more than meets the requirements for inclusion. Whether or not it gets into the game would be based upon other factors.

As to the P-39... I'd take the P-39Q-30 over the P-39K-1 any day. Besides, more P-39Q-30s were built than the K model (399 vs 210), making it a more common variant.
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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2012, 09:53:00 PM »
Yes but the G.55 is so sexy, which is more than you can say for any p-39/63.


Come onnnnn lol  it's sexy in its own way.  Especially the white scheme for the D  :joystick:
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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2012, 04:58:59 AM »
I think the problem with the Soviet Manchurian campaign of August 45 is that it was such a massive walkover thru Northern China and then along the Kurile Islands that (plus it's just not mentioned in "western history") that we some how don't count it as part of WWII.

Japanese air born defence was not in evidence so the VVS just ground pounded a path for the Soviet Army. P63's were there in some force ( with Il-10's and Tu-2's) but did not meet any airborne opposition until they threatened the Japanese North Island.

It would only be fitting that the P63 entered game in VVS colours.
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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2012, 05:51:32 PM »

It would only be fitting that the P63 entered game in VVS colours.

Absolutely!
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Re: P-63 Performance
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2012, 05:59:14 PM »
I'd go so far as to say that if the P-63 were added to AH it should only be in Russian colors.
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