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Offline Brownien

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Sea Planes
« on: March 14, 2012, 10:27:44 PM »
why not add some? we have plenty of perfectly good water just lying around! they could spawn out of ports or frm a cv.

A6M2-N Rufe  we already have the Zero modeled, why not add floats?

N1K1 Kyofu  U.S. codename Rex, 97 units were built

H8K Emily Flying Boat  could act as a bomber or a torpedo bomber

PBY Catalina
with the addition of using seaplanes from Ports, missions could be conducted from them or they could be a bit easier to defend.Carrier groups could possibly spawn seaplanes from the cruiser or something. this would open up another possibilty of offensive tactics such as bombing raids using flying boats, escorted by floatplanes!  :x For landing, a series of buoys could outline a strip or a location for safely ending a sortie, or just landing near the carrier like PT boats.

And if we do get subs then we would have somewhere to launch some Aichi M6A Seirans from!  :banana: :banana: :banana:

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 11:01:36 PM »
Start small... floatplanes are good because we already have 3-4 feet of depth in the water modeled-- see PT boat and LVTs.

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2012, 12:29:55 PM »
Start small... floatplanes are good because we already have 3-4 feet of depth in the water modeled-- see PT boat and LVTs.

Its deeper than that, I had a tank fall through the ground and by the time I .ef I was somewhere around 10k underground :D

I imagined it like the movie The core starring that dude Hilary swank ;)

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2012, 12:34:46 PM »
Its deeper than that, I had a tank fall through the ground and by the time I .ef I was somewhere around 10k underground :D


:rofl I did that with a PT boat when the CV started turning in a never ending circle :D

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 12:36:04 PM »
+1   will be very cool to take off and land on water.  

Add swell,  Add water depth so you can roll it and sink,  Add submarines,  Add depth charges!    ok I'm getting carried away now .....

there was a boxed game called battle stations Midway that came out ages ago that combined all of these things very well and it looked good but not over the top.  

go google images search  battle stations Midway.   
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 03:15:17 PM »
I see planes every time I am on...........
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 03:55:34 PM »
why not add some? we have plenty of perfectly good water just lying around! they could spawn out of ports or from a cv.

A6M2-N Rufe  we already have the Zero modeled, why not add floats?

N1K1 Kyofu  U.S. codename Rex, 97 units were built

H8K Emily Flying Boat  could act as a bomber or a torpedo bomber

PBY Catalina
with the addition of using seaplanes from Ports, missions could be conducted from them or they could be a bit easier to defend.Carrier groups could possibly spawn seaplanes from the cruiser or something. this would open up another possibility of offensive tactics such as bombing raids using flying boats, escorted by floatplanes!  :x For landing, a series of buoys could outline a strip or a location for safely ending a sortie, or just landing near the carrier like PT boats.

And if we do get subs then we would have somewhere to launch some Aichi M6A Seirans from!  :banana: :banana: :banana:
Great suggestion!!! A PBY-4 would add some realism to some of the reenactment missions which I conduct in the MLW arena from time to time and everyone seems to enjoy them a great deal. I realize they would be "easy" meat for the score hounds in this game, but if used correctly and selectively, would add something to the game. I would still like to see "surface" submarines added to the game, 4 per CV group, which you could select just like an aircraft and leave the "mother" CV and hunt other enemy CV's. Would give aircraft something else to hunt and attack and with the low profile on the water, would be a threat to enemy CV's.
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 04:41:03 PM »
A PBY-4 as any other flying boat, would be a fairly easy target, but so are the Ju-88 and both current Japanese bombers. Thats why a seaplane fighter would be nessesary to provide cover for said flying boats. Plus tests have shown that the addition to floats to a zero to make a Rufe, did not greatly detract to the craft's preformance. Same thing goes for the tests of Wildcats with floats, although they were scrapped due to the use of aircraft carriers, and island bases in the pacific. I don't know of any other seaplane fighters that operated durring the war, but im sure thee implementation of single engine scout floatplanes would not be welcomed. :salute

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 04:57:01 PM »
If you think a Ju-88 is a easy target, your not flying it right. I have constantly dogfight planes in it and can handle the planes well. Its more manuverable than you think, so is the B-26. Besides its fun to watch how people cope with a bomber turnfighting, and actually trunfighting pretty well.
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2012, 05:04:37 PM »
Oh im not saying shooting down a Ju88 is a walk in the park, it just is a bit more difficult to defend that a B17 chugging away on its guns! it takes more skill to defend in those early-mid war bombers. And yes i have gotten numerous kills in all three bombers mentioned. Im simply stating that a different tactic would be needed to help better defend against those nasty late war fighters and there big ol' cannons!

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 01:27:09 PM »
A PBY-4 as any other flying boat, would be a fairly easy target, but so are the Ju-88 and both current Japanese bombers. Thats why a seaplane fighter would be nessesary to provide cover for said flying boats. Plus tests have shown that the addition to floats to a zero to make a Rufe, did not greatly detract to the craft's preformance. Same thing goes for the tests of Wildcats with floats, although they were scrapped due to the use of aircraft carriers, and island bases in the pacific. I don't know of any other seaplane fighters that operated durring the war, but im sure thee implementation of single engine scout floatplanes would not be welcomed. :salute

The Rufe was an easy target.
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2012, 02:29:07 PM »
The Rufe was an easy target.

Floats on the Rufe caused between a 20-25% loss of performance over the Zero.

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2012, 02:31:31 PM »
+1 maps

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 10:58:19 AM »
This makes sense if HT adds a whole new entity to the game, namely the convoy. PBYs were great for scouting, though this is not much of an issue in this game. They become a slightly bigger, less manueverable Storch, a little tougher then the C47: Just another easy kill.

Have a convoy of 10 Liberty ships with four destroyers as escorts. Allow for the PBY to carrier a torpedoe and go for it. This convoy would resupply forward bases, without it the bases take longer to repair themselves.

This dynamic makes sense for floatplanes, etc.

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 11:04:32 AM »
I've wanted a PBY for a long time now. Maybe someday we'll get it  :pray


It'd be cool if they could resupply TGs and attack enemy shipping with torpedoes.
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