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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2012, 02:49:27 AM »
PBYs would be great for when poor sports send carriers as far from anything as possible.
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2012, 05:12:57 AM »
I recently saw a Do-24 at the Dutch Air Force Museum in Soesterberg. It is in extremely good condition:-

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2012, 01:42:09 PM »
PBYs would be great for when poor sports send carriers as far from anything as possible.

You already can use a bomber to do the same thing, no need for a PBY.

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2012, 02:44:58 PM »
Use your imagination a little.

With a dedicated spotter plane, enemy carrier spottings could be done from a farther distance, or possibly even have the ability to show the recent location of an carrier on the map itself.
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2012, 02:57:38 PM »
Use your imagination a little.

With a dedicated spotter plane, enemy carrier spottings could be done from a farther distance, or possibly even have the ability to show the recent location of an carrier on the map itself.

Bombers like B-17s, B-24s, B-26s, B-25s and other bombers were routinely used as dedicated patrol planes to scout for maritime (shipping) targets.  The PBY held no advantages over the bombers when it came to spotting maritime targets.

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2012, 03:38:00 PM »
Bombers like B-17s, B-24s, B-26s, B-25s and other bombers were routinely used as dedicated patrol planes to scout for maritime (shipping) targets.  The PBY held no advantages over the bombers when it came to spotting maritime targets.

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it could land should something happen to an engine, or should they see a downed pilot, like to see one of then b-series do that  :neener:
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2012, 05:46:01 PM »
Bombers like B-17s, B-24s, B-26s, B-25s and other bombers were routinely used as dedicated patrol planes to scout for maritime (shipping) targets.  The PBY held no advantages over the bombers when it came to spotting maritime targets.

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with the un-expected introduction of the Storch maybe HTC are open to some new ideas to spice up gameplay.   

The Storch has made an impact on the GV war for me.   With a catalina enabled at ports and maybe a spotter option to mark CV's from double the normal radar circle.  The player could then stay out of range of the CV dar but provide his team with an up to date Position of the carrier whilst he keeps within range of it.   Soon as he flies off it drops away from the clipboard.   

Not to mention landing and taking off on the water would be  :cool:,   giving supps to PT boats,  and if HTC were to add any submarines well the catalina would be used in even more ways.   
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2012, 06:36:57 PM »
with the un-expected introduction of the Storch maybe HTC are open to some new ideas to spice up gameplay.   

The Storch has made an impact on the GV war for me.   With a catalina enabled at ports and maybe a spotter option to mark CV's from double the normal radar circle.  The player could then stay out of range of the CV dar but provide his team with an up to date Position of the carrier whilst he keeps within range of it.   Soon as he flies off it drops away from the clipboard.   

Not to mention landing and taking off on the water would be  :cool:,   giving supps to PT boats,  and if HTC were to add any submarines well the catalina would be used in even more ways.   

But if you're going to give the PBY options to spot a CV further, like the Storch's increased range to detect GVs, you'd have to give that option to bombers as well since they were historically also used in that role.

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2012, 08:29:54 PM »
it could land should something happen to an engine, or should they see a downed pilot, like to see one of then b-series do that  :neener:

     And I'd like to see a PBY keep flying with 2 engines out  :neener:
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2012, 11:02:48 AM »
that is sort of a cool idea. that would be usefull at those isolated ports to have some sort of Aeriel defense
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2012, 02:26:29 PM »
When i first posted this wish i intended the use of seaplanes at ports for aerial defensive and offensive power for ports, not just as observation aircraft, which any bomber would have preformed. thank u Ack Ack. these planes had some firepower! and are not just flying binoculars!  :bhead

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2012, 02:12:05 PM »
But if you're going to give the PBY options to spot a CV further, like the Storch's increased range to detect GVs, you'd have to give that option to bombers as well since they were historically also used in that role.
Bombers were USED as -second choice- Scouts and Patrol craft when SEA PLANES WERE NOT AVAILABLE ... generally they lacked the special equipment (like RDF) and TRAINED OBSERVATION CREWS the catalinas had ... Aside from THAT their use was as ASW & Convoy Escorts ... Just because it has WINGS your 109 is NOT going to get the Storch's Observation advantages and your B-24 doesn't qualify as an OBSERVATION plane. DUH ?
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2012, 04:06:49 PM »
Bombers were USED as -second choice- Scouts and Patrol craft when SEA PLANES WERE NOT AVAILABLE ... generally they lacked the special equipment (like RDF) and TRAINED OBSERVATION CREWS the catalinas had ... Aside from THAT their use was as ASW & Convoy Escorts ... Just because it has WINGS your 109 is NOT going to get the Storch's Observation advantages and your B-24 doesn't qualify as an OBSERVATION plane. DUH ?
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Jeebus bud are you still here? Stop making stuff up willya. You're 100% wrong on each point--once again. They were a second choice? Because bombers didn't have what? Range? RDF? Really? Like to see the wiki link you got that from. Trained crews? Seriously? Next you're gonna say they didn't even have windows or were not allowed to take a pair of binoculars along when on maritime patrol missions which--oops I forgot--they hardly flew being as they weren't trained for it<face palm>. Do you have any idea how stupid you make yourself look when you post before you think or at least research for 5 minutes? You got major wood for seaplanes. We get it. But to make them into some sort of wunderplanes is just insane. They fit a very minor niche in the war and that they never progressed from that point afterward which oughta tell ya how minor, minor was. They have no use here. No reason AT ALL for the devs to put all the clock cycles into developing the plane and fixing all of the water in the game so it might get used --hardly ever, btw-- by roughly a half dozen guys by my estimation that WILL stop flying them after the first tour. Been here--seen dat.  Neat, yeah. Cool, sure. I'd rather see things added that might have some actual use.

Just stop with the whacky misinformation. If you have something to add try and remember you're posting to a community that's been in place a LONG TIME. You simply can't make stuff up, throw it at the wall and assume it'll stick here. That's just not going to happen.

Here's a clue. Get out of MW and spend a night in LW and you'll see there's absolutely no problem finding and sinking carrier groups with what we have in the game right now. I only fly a few hours a night and I see ships go down every hour. If somebody hides it--so what? It's got to come out sometime and when it does it'll get attacked. If somebody hides it 10 sectors away I seriously doubt ANYONE (including you) is gonna take a 90 MPH PBY to go looking for it. Heck, I doubt even Midway has the time for that! ;)
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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2012, 04:18:49 PM »
Hi, Drano!  :cool:

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Re: Sea Planes
« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2012, 04:21:17 PM »
Heya Arlo. Good to see you're still above ground amigo. :aok
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