Author Topic: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS  (Read 5548 times)

Offline Slash27

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 12798
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #150 on: March 19, 2012, 08:42:07 PM »
Provide cover?  My own ack shoots me just as much as any cover it provides for me.
You're not hugging hard enough.

Offline grizz441

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7001
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #151 on: March 19, 2012, 08:49:33 PM »
Oh c'mon now Grizz. If friendly fire gets you as much as the enemy ack does then you're the unluckiest guy in the game.  Yeah it's gotten me too, but not near as much the enemy stuff.

If I am fighting the enemy it is shooting at, I am almost as likely to get nailed as my opponent is yes? That's how the popcorn box works.

Offline uptown

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8569
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #152 on: March 19, 2012, 09:05:43 PM »
If I am fighting the enemy it is shooting at, I am almost as likely to get nailed as my opponent is yes? That's how the popcorn box works.
If you say it does then I believe ya but now i'm wondering just how big that "popcorn box" is? I was under the impression that the ack target box is about the same size as 1 plane if that.... any bigger I'd think the ack would take out buffs 3 at a time.  :headscratch:
Lighten up Francis

Offline pervert

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3968
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #153 on: March 19, 2012, 09:21:36 PM »
Because the computer really doesn't care how exact the bullet looks when it leaves it's gun. And because player maned guns have this thing called a Brain making choices where to aim it. And the computer never complains when the persons brain controlling it doesn't keep up with what the computer is displaying.

HiTech

Hitech doesnt it tell you something when so many people complain about this for years on end?  :old:

Offline Tordon22

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1607
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #154 on: March 19, 2012, 09:29:18 PM »
No, because we don't know what we really want... or I think some similar phrase.

Offline Citabria

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5149
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #155 on: March 19, 2012, 09:48:24 PM »
See rule #4
« Last Edit: March 20, 2012, 03:09:20 PM by hitech »
Fester was my in game name until September 2013

Offline pervert

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3968
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #156 on: March 20, 2012, 12:03:04 AM »
No, because we don't know what we really want... or I think some similar phrase.

I want hot lesbians!  :banana:

Offline FLS

  • AH Training Corps
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11621
      • Trainer's Website
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #157 on: March 20, 2012, 07:09:58 AM »
If you say it does then I believe ya but now i'm wondering just how big that "popcorn box" is? I was under the impression that the ack target box is about the same size as 1 plane if that.... any bigger I'd think the ack would take out buffs 3 at a time.  :headscratch:

If you fly near a CV in the TA and use the F5 view you'll get a good idea of the puffy ack box size.

Offline Tilt

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7358
      • FullTilt
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #158 on: March 20, 2012, 09:03:42 AM »
Is the box accuracy in any way degraded by its range/distance from origin to target?

Is the accuracy of the first salvo as effective as subsequent salvo's?

Could the game implement a "warning" salvo infront of the target?

Should it (ships AA)  not (as a priority) target the greatest threat (enemy bombers etc) rather than the closest enemy of any ac type?
Ludere Vincere

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7275
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #159 on: March 20, 2012, 09:19:19 AM »
I have flown a spitXIV near enemy HQ (near, not directly over) at 35,000 feet and have been killed multiple times by the first ack explosion.

Puffy ack is a necessary evil here at this time but it could use some adjustment.

Offline FLS

  • AH Training Corps
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11621
      • Trainer's Website
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #160 on: March 20, 2012, 11:19:38 AM »
Tilt, the ack spawns randomly within the box. The size of the box changes according to speed, direction, distance, and G load. Changing the size of the box affects the hit probability but there is always a chance of a first shot hit.

My understanding is that the closest enemy is generally considered the highest threat.

Offline pervert

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3968
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #161 on: March 20, 2012, 12:32:28 PM »
Heres an idea, puffy ack as it is modelled at the moment is there to provide an opportunity for people who want to win the easy way to win easily, as a side effect it cheeses off anyone else who can think about the situation rationally.

Reading Festers comments just highlights that fact, it isn't so much an opinion as it is a rational thought process, there is no other explanation apart from, its modelled that way to make the game easier for people to win without effort, a comfort blanket for lazy players to succeed.

Offline Wiley

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8096
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #162 on: March 20, 2012, 12:35:10 PM »
I want hot lesbians!  :banana:

Ladies and gentlemen, Exhibit A.  This is a prime example of not actually asking for what you're really wanting.  Would you not actually prefer hot, openminded bisexual women?   :D

Wiley.
If you think you are having a 1v1 in the Main Arena, your SA has failed you.

JG11

Offline Arlo

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 24760
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #163 on: March 20, 2012, 12:41:03 PM »
Heres an idea, puffy ack as it is modelled at the moment is there to provide an opportunity for people who want to win the easy way to win easily, as a side effect it cheeses off anyone else who can think about the situation rationally.

Reading Festers comments just highlights that fact, it isn't so much an opinion as it is a rational thought process, there is no other explanation apart from, its modelled that way to make the game easier for people to win without effort, a comfort blanket for lazy players to succeed.

And here I thought this 11 page complaint centered on lazy players wanting to be able to sink fleets easy mode.

Offline pervert

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3968
Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #164 on: March 20, 2012, 12:47:40 PM »
And here I thought this 11 page complaint centered on lazy players wanting to be able to sink fleets easy mode.

Do you know any hot lesbians?