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Offline W7LPNRICK

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I'm getting Brave.
« on: March 24, 2012, 06:50:07 PM »
Over the years I've upgraded RAM, replaced Hard Drives, upgraded Video Cards, and other easy stuff like that. Now I'm gonna try a build. I went to Newegg.com and ordered the following. My Son-In-Law is a $60,000/year programmer etc., he and a few others I spoke with in game all agree Heat is the enemy. So, I got a tower with 1 200mm fan & 2x 120mm fans. It all will arrive next week. Intend on having fun! wish me luck.   :old:


ENERMAX FULMO Advance ECA892AG-BL Black SGCC 0.7mm ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Item #: N82E16811124144 Standard Return Policy MSI P67A-G45 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Item #: N82E16813130582 Standard Return Policy EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) FPB 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Item #: N82E16814130625 VGA Standard Return Policy Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-650 650W Continuous @ 50°C, 80 PLUS GOLD Certified, Single +12V Rail, ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V ... Item #: N82E16817182071 Standard Return Policy Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 ... Item #: N82E16819115074 CPU Replacement Only Return Policy G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM Item #: N82E16820231445 Memory
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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2012, 07:39:52 PM »
looks like a nice rig you will have there.  :aok

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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 08:30:58 PM »
My only concern is the Rosewill power supply.  I've had too many issues with power supplies to buy anything that wasn't made by Seasonic.  I've used Seasonic built power supplies in about 15 systems I've used or built for other people and have never once had a problem with them.  I've also fixed several systems that were behaving "flaky" by installing a Seasonic power supply.  My G/F's system would randomly crash and give her a BSOD.  I replaced her 650 Watt generic power supply with a 620 Watt Corsair (made by Seasonic) and it's been trouble free ever since!

Spend a few bucks more as this is the lifeline of your system.

Keep in mind that many power supplies of different brands are made by Seasonic.. it doesn't necessarily have to be a Seasonic branded power supply.

There's a nice article linked below that describes the different brands and who really makes their different models:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913.html

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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2012, 08:48:29 PM »
Over the years I've upgraded RAM, replaced Hard Drives, upgraded Video Cards, and other easy stuff like that. Now I'm gonna try a build. I went to Newegg.com and ordered the following. My Son-In-Law is a $60,000/year programmer etc., he and a few others I spoke with in game all agree Heat is the enemy. So, I got a tower with 1 200mm fan & 2x 120mm fans. It all will arrive next week. Intend on having fun! wish me luck.   :old:


ENERMAX FULMO Advance ECA892AG-BL Black SGCC 0.7mm ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Item #: N82E16811124144 Standard Return Policy MSI P67A-G45 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Item #: N82E16813130582 Standard Return Policy EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) FPB 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Item #: N82E16814130625 VGA Standard Return Policy Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-650 650W Continuous @ 50°C, 80 PLUS GOLD Certified, Single +12V Rail, ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V ... Item #: N82E16817182071 Standard Return Policy Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 ... Item #: N82E16819115074 CPU Replacement Only Return Policy G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM Item #: N82E16820231445 Memory

Forgo the chincy PSU and get...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2012, 09:06:16 PM »
Forgo the chincy PSU and get...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010

That Corsair HX750 is made by "Channel Well".  My g/f's computer had a TX650 (also made by Channel Well) and it had a very annoying piezo kind of noise that would repeat every second while the computer was off.  A very high pitched noise that you could barely hear but was extremely annoying!  Also her computer had random BSOD and locking up issues.  I replaced that with an Antec "Neo Eco 620" which is made by Seasonic and it has performed flawlessly ever since.

Instead I'd recommend the Corsair AX750 - It's only $10 more and it's made by Seasonic. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139016

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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 09:15:08 PM »
My only concern is the Rosewill power supply.  I've had too many issues with power supplies to buy anything that wasn't made by Seasonic.  I've used Seasonic built power supplies in about 15 systems I've used or built for other people and have never once had a problem with them.  I've also fixed several systems that were behaving "flaky" by installing a Seasonic power supply.  My G/F's system would randomly crash and give her a BSOD.  I replaced her 650 Watt generic power supply with a 620 Watt Corsair (made by Seasonic) and it's been trouble free ever since!

Spend a few bucks more as this is the lifeline of your system.

Keep in mind that many power supplies of different brands are made by Seasonic.. it doesn't necessarily have to be a Seasonic branded power supply.

There's a nice article linked below that describes the different brands and who really makes their different models:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913.html

Actually the seasonic was my first choice, then I thought too much about it and reviews on NewEgg were all favorable for this one, so I decided to try it. The 80+ Gold sticker is suposed to be an upgrade from this manufacturer. It's bought now so...?
« Last Edit: March 24, 2012, 09:20:28 PM by W7LPNRICK »
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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2012, 09:22:06 PM »
Actually the seasonic was my first choice, then I thought too much about it and reviews on NewEgg were all favorable for this one, so I decided to try it. The 80+ Gold sticker is suposed to be an upgrade from this manufacturer. It's bought now so...?

It might work just fine for you.  Just because it's a "house brand" doesn't necessarily mean it's junk.

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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2012, 09:55:24 PM »
Actually the seasonic was my first choice, then I thought too much about it and reviews on NewEgg were all favorable for this one, so I decided to try it. The 80+ Gold sticker is suposed to be an upgrade from this manufacturer. It's bought now so...?

Rosewill isn't good.   There I said it.    Best of luck though.   
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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 01:37:38 AM »
with the money you are spending get the 2500k sandy bridge just a few bucks more but you can oc like crazy.  all others you wont be able to.  the "k" are the only ones that are unlocked.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

it's 30 bucks more but you get more than our money's worth.  if you dont know how to over clock, that mobo that you are buying all you have to do is push one button and it will oc to 4.2 for you.  learn a little more and you can do 4.8 easily w/o breaking into a sweat.

also i may just upgrade the mobo from the p67 to another one from msi.  and it will only add about another 40 bucks. but you get a mobo than maybe a little better than what you have.  I have the msi p67-gd-65 and I love it and when i bought it it was one of the best mobo's even better than some that cost 100 bucks more but now I wish i had an upgraded mobo. as the p67 is "last year's model" :).


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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 06:13:16 AM »
With that Fermi NVidia card, you really need to pump that power supply up to 750W, or so.  Also consider a better quality supply.  Why risk a nice system to a cheap power supply?  Rosewill is not hit and miss.  If it does not give you grief instantly, it will in about 3 to 6 months.  When (not if) it goes, it will take out most of your computer components.
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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2012, 12:51:17 PM »
With that Fermi NVidia card, you really need to pump that power supply up to 750W, or so.  Also consider a better quality supply.  Why risk a nice system to a cheap power supply?  Rosewill is not hit and miss.  If it does not give you grief instantly, it will in about 3 to 6 months.  When (not if) it goes, it will take out most of your computer components.

Oh Crap! Next time I'll come on here and ask for opinions before I push "Buy". :rolleyes: Wish me luck!  :salute

PS what about these reviews...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071  :frown:
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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 01:22:40 PM »
Return the power supply, even if it costs you a 15% restocking fee, it is still cheaper than replacing other components later.
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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 01:40:31 PM »
my next build will be submerged.


you should look into it.

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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2012, 04:39:37 PM »
Oh Crap! Next time I'll come on here and ask for opinions before I push "Buy". :rolleyes: Wish me luck!  :salute

PS what about these reviews...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071  :frown:

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Re: I'm getting Brave.
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2012, 08:15:41 PM »
PS what about these reviews...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071  :frown:

There are only nine reviews.  And even though all of them are five stars, the first review was posted late January which means this power supply has only been selling for a couple of months.  There is no possibly way any of those reviews can reflect the longevity of the product.  Sure it may work just fine at first but it's very common for lesser quality power supplies to fail just several months into their life.

I'm especially concerned about the one review that gave it five stars despite having to use only two screws to hold in in place due to two of the screw holes not being properly threaded.  If they can't even get the housing right then what can be said about the internals?

But...as I said before.. who knows?  This may actually be a very good product.  Given the Rosewill reputation I really doubt it but anything is possible.  The simple fact is there is just not enough data to make the determination as to the longevity of this product so it really is hit or miss.