Problem is not within the 190D series , but primary the A-series , Baumer posted in this forum aircraft/vehicles about the A8 was more than 200 kg too heavy, and therefore can't do any 1vs1 worth mentioning for more than a short duration , also the 1.65ata that where standard after few months of A8 introduction, gives another bird below 6k feet.

And? the clue is in the name 'luft' 'whinner' You don't see me starting conspiracy threads about why the 190d should turn tighter, I do just fine with whats there against anybody in anything, don't turn this into an us vs them thing because I fly a 190 exclusively, that situation only exists in your melon. I like the flight modeling in general in Aces High.