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Offline Letalis

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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2012, 08:56:08 PM »
Completely agree w original post, people will invariably take the path of least resistance towards what they see as the most satisfying aspect of the game be it mastery of the 1v1 or swarming airfields.  I also think that if you're in love with a given plane your choice of aircraft can drive play style as much as play style drives aircraft selection.  Most of my early time was spent in the 47D-25 and F6F. During that period my ideal sortie involved flying into an even numbered furball and walking away with 7 kills.  I always assumed the other pilot to be my equal or better and generally avoided 1v1s against K-4s and Spixteens.  I think starting in the Jug made me a better pilot (E-awareness!) than if I'd started in a Spixteen but definitely delayed my interest and proficiency in 1v1s. Later on I got into the Yak-9U/109G2 a bit and found I couldn't rack up 7 kills in a furball due to ammo and subsequent lack of bread and butter deflection shots.  I found myself running around in the 9U and preferring three or four 1v1s in a :backwater sortie" vice the large furball.  Equally satisfying sortie profiles due as much to different aircraft as to skill level imho.
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2012, 08:56:45 PM »
Don't get why you play a combat game to run away from every single combat opportunity that isn't a 2+ vs 1.

Heck, I've had guys run away in 2 v 1s when they realize they were about lose. How does anyone expect to get better if all they do is fly like the game is real life?

When I fly into hordes, it's my decision and I understand that if I get picked, fine.

It's when I fly into a 1 v 1 and halfway through, the guy either runs, or brings a buddy in that makes me go  :bhead.

When I see a 1 v 1, I'll usually ask before engaging unless it's a lemming on my team that I could care less about.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2012, 08:57:22 PM »
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2012, 09:02:58 PM »
Don't get why you play a combat game to run away from every single combat opportunity that isn't a 2+ vs 1.

Heck, I've had guys run away in 2 v 1s when they realize they were about lose. How does anyone expect to get better if all they do is fly like the game is real life?

When I fly into hordes, it's my decision and I understand that if I get picked, fine.

It's when I fly into a 1 v 1 and halfway through, the guy either runs, or brings a buddy in that makes me go  :bhead.

When I see a 1 v 1, I'll usually ask before engaging unless it's a lemming on my team that I could care less about.

 :headscratch: Some people like being chased?  It's fun for them to evade capture (kind of like playing tag)? :headscratch:

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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2012, 09:16:05 PM »
Totally agree.  Experienced pilots hunting for 1v1's and shaming less skilled players in the MA can be silly at times also.  What exactly is fair about fighting someone one half your experience/skill level in a 1v1?  You will crush them everytime.  As long as you challenge yourself and still manage to balance that challenge with still having fun without getting too frustrated, that is the ticket to being healthy for the game as well as having fun on a personal level.

Dunno about that. Not everyone learns 1v1 in the DA. I spent a lot of time at first getting killed by vets in 1v1s and had a fine time. Still do actually.

Looked at it as a learning experience and free training. For example, I remember you brutally reversing and tatering me in that K4 once when I caught you low. I didn't mind at all, quite the opposite.

And who wouldn't rather lose a 1v1 than get picked or ganged? At least you have some fun before you're sent to the tower.
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2012, 09:25:18 PM »
Never went to the DA for the sake of a 1v1.  I'm a stats junky, I want everything I do recorded and available for reference in one spot.  Only times I ever went to the DA was when reputable players would accuse me of cheating.  It would be cool if the DA recorded your stats in the same manner it does the other arenas.
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2012, 09:43:29 PM »
All communities eventualy have segments who compete to define the reality of what it means to be a proper and right minded member if there is no super controlling body forcing the definition onto the community as a membership due. The segment with the most emotionaly satisfying definition tends to wrest tacit control. Being rewarded with the subsiquent favor of the community body via shared identity. Sheep reward sheep or sheep dogs. Not wolves and lions who dine on sheep while telling them they suck for being sheep. High Risk Takers  who were needed to found the community.

Historicly high risk takers have never ruled mature communities. The risk takers have no tollerence for the masses of the less inclined and tend to abuse them for the difference. Then the risk takers become relegated to the side lines and the past if they don't incurr a bloody revolution or a rope. They are eventualy enshrined as the legends of the founding of the communities because high risk takers generaly blase the trail for the future stages of communities development. Or they go start their own company with a name like frappel or micro plop.

The sheep sacrafice them on the alter of their own success or make them irrelevant to the realities of being a good and proper sheep. Along the way nativistic resurgences will happen generaly being treated as extreamists. But, the cycle of community evolution plods forward and over them.

Welcome to the new stampeed and thank you for blazing the trails. Now get back up on your shiny gold plated pedistals, strike another heroic pose, and quit being annoying. The sheep are here to stay and they like being in flocks. Sheep taste like sheep always has. Eat or don't eat. I doubt if they care in an unlimited lives game.

I will bet them not caring is the real source of this overall posting. The old gods and spirits died out because nobody cared anymore.

 
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2012, 09:50:56 PM »
I need to learn that everyone plays the game how they like it and I can't change that.

Take this throughout your life! :)
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2012, 10:06:30 PM »
All communities eventualy have segments who compete to define the reality of what it means to be a proper and right minded member if there is no super controlling body forcing the definition onto the community as a membership due. The segment with the most emotionaly satisfying definition tends to wrest tacit control. Being rewarded with the subsiquent favor of the community body via shared identity. Sheep reward sheep or sheep dogs. Not wolves and lions who dine on sheep while telling them they suck for being sheep. High Risk Takers  who were needed to found the community.

Historicly high risk takers have never ruled mature communities. The risk takers have no tollerence for the masses of the less inclined and tend to abuse them for the difference. Then the risk takers become relegated to the side lines and the past if they don't incurr a bloody revolution or a rope. They are eventualy enshrined as the legends of the founding of the communities because high risk takers generaly blase the trail for the future stages of communities development. Or they go start their own company with a name like frappel or micro plop.

The sheep sacrafice them on the alter of their own success or make them irrelevant to the realities of being a good and proper sheep. Along the way nativistic resurgences will happen generaly being treated as extreamists. But, the cycle of community evolution plods forward and over them.

Welcome to the new stampeed and thank you for blazing the trails. Now get back up on your shiny gold plated pedistals, strike another heroic pose, and quit being annoying. The sheep are here to stay and they like being in flocks. Sheep taste like sheep always has. Eat or don't eat. I doubt if they care in an unlimited lives game.

I will bet them not caring is the real source of this overall posting. The old gods and spirits died out because nobody cared anymore.

 

High risk takers have been the greatest leaders. You cannot get to a leadership position without taking risk so I disagree with that point.

It was not not caring but simple change that killed "the old gods."
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2012, 10:47:13 PM »
All communities eventualy have segments who compete to define the reality of what it means to be a proper and right minded member if there is no super controlling body forcing the definition onto the community as a membership due. The segment with the most emotionaly satisfying definition tends to wrest tacit control. Being rewarded with the subsiquent favor of the community body via shared identity. Sheep reward sheep or sheep dogs. Not wolves and lions who dine on sheep while telling them they suck for being sheep. High Risk Takers  who were needed to found the community.

Historicly high risk takers have never ruled mature communities. The risk takers have no tollerence for the masses of the less inclined and tend to abuse them for the difference. Then the risk takers become relegated to the side lines and the past if they don't incurr a bloody revolution or a rope. They are eventualy enshrined as the legends of the founding of the communities because high risk takers generaly blase the trail for the future stages of communities development. Or they go start their own company with a name like frappel or micro plop.

The sheep sacrafice them on the alter of their own success or make them irrelevant to the realities of being a good and proper sheep. Along the way nativistic resurgences will happen generaly being treated as extreamists. But, the cycle of community evolution plods forward and over them.

Welcome to the new stampeed and thank you for blazing the trails. Now get back up on your shiny gold plated pedistals, strike another heroic pose, and quit being annoying. The sheep are here to stay and they like being in flocks. Sheep taste like sheep always has. Eat or don't eat. I doubt if they care in an unlimited lives game.

I will bet them not caring is the real source of this overall posting. The old gods and spirits died out because nobody cared anymore.

 
You're leaving out the vulchers.  Where there are sheep and wolves, there are vulchers.  Those that eat at someone elses risk...the ones that only come down to dine after the hard work is complete or who take back to the skies if too many live sheep return.  They neither help the wolves nor help the sheep.  Parasites.  Explain them please or explain why you left them out.
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2012, 10:49:39 PM »
I would classify my self in game as a high functioning vulture.
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2012, 10:55:19 PM »
And looking back at my days as a Trainer, most new people didn't want to even put in the time to learn much.
Many would ask for 'cheat codes' which are readily available in other games but NOT in Aces High. You DO have to put in the time and effort to learn stuff which is tough to do with the attention span of a gnat; however, when you do put in that time and effort you reap rewards the gnats never get.
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2012, 11:02:34 PM »
Kazaa, Bruv, DrBone, and Grizz have layed major smack downs on me in my early days of AH. Seeing how good they were inspired me to try to one day be like them and spread the teachings of newer guys the art of AH dogfighting. Yes for anyone who has seen me ingame or on bbs sees me complain about people not fighting, but in all reality it's my inflated ego in my head that makes me get angry when they kill me with (in my opinion) are lame tactics.

I need to learn that everyone plays the game how they like it and I can't change that.

I use to be the same way bro it would to piss me off why people would run from a 1v1 or ho, if you think about it though hoing or running from you is usually the right thing to do in the MA because trust me they are not going to learn much from a 2 turn fight lol. Me on the other hand I think a lot like you and although i no longer have the time or patience to be that good its still what i enjoy most about the game and the only reason im still paying my subscription.
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2012, 11:34:58 PM »
High risk takers have been the greatest leaders. You cannot get to a leadership position without taking risk so I disagree with that point.

Spoken by a High Risk Taker.

Most of the complaints brought to this forum are by the risk takers complaining about the sheep. The majority of every group are sheep unless you talk special units, specialised organisations or entrepreneurs. Risk Takers admire but dislike each other. It's the nature of the meat eater in them. Mature societies do not tollerate risk takers outside of narrow venues because they create strife and discord in their pursuit of their next goal(meal). They sound exactly like the "gods of fight" in this game when they grouse about the unmotivated sheep who hold back their dreams.

Leadership in a mature society is not leadership. It's management of people, processes, and resources to maintain a stable order. You don't need a risk taker to ensure the sewer works, children get to school on time, and food makes it to the stores. Even businesses mature and the risk taker of the startup days cannot recognise the risk taker of the maturity phase as the same species.

This game is maturing and the sheep are breeding. You have to care to beleive in anything that takes faith, and the sheep no longer care about the old school AH gods of fight. They have their flock and their own heros who in turn will become legends and gods of the game in their memories. What does anyone remember of AW and it's gods of fight, unless someone gathers a group of old timers to sit around and reminice? They do not exist anymore because too few care to keep them alive in their memories.

It takes an audience to care that you spent all that time in the DA becoming a fight god of Aces High and keep that memory alive to validate your effort. Your fellow carnivors want the same validation so won't be giving any away other than recognition of being the same breed. Otherwise the sheep have decided to counter you with the flock and pursuit what ever makes them happy in the non fight god world of Aces High. Gods cannot exist if they are ignored no matter how loudly they deride the mortals for who they are or threaten them with their lofty judgement over the order of things.

Them sheeps don't care and are happily enjoying the way they play the game. They seem to be happier than you by having less self image on the line tied to the proper order of the Aces High Universe.
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2012, 07:11:04 AM »
JOACHIM,

With all the respect for giving a personal opinion about you.....

You (IMO) are an excellent pilot, but I'm liking your latest posts here and there.....you're about to get the whole picture and become as a good player as the excellent virtual pilot you are... :)

As I said, with respect, and hoping It didn't bother you.

One Salute Sir

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