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Offline The Fugitive

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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #60 on: April 05, 2012, 05:54:44 PM »
Once per week? Zzzzzz.

Every time I fly it should be something like this, which is probably why I don't fly anymore. It's so boring and pointless to enter an unbalanced fight every single time your wheels leave the ground whether it be against a horde or with the horde. This game (The MA where most people spend 99% of their game time) is about numbers the way it's currently structured, not about superior fighting tactics.

Agreed. It doesn't even have to be "balanced", just not so lopsided as it always seems to be.

not once a week if more people could get in there and try it they may like it, and basically you have a week long FSO that changes on a weekly basis and you can come and go as ya please there have been Axis and Allied AVA threads on this BBS for awhile  people could use those to coordinate and plan. You use period specific planes  and would expose more people to ac other than spixteens, ponys, la's and 190's. Also I think  you can also fly the SEC as walk on anytime(correct if wrong)

I wish more people would try it as well. It would give them a taste of something different, and maybe wet their appetite a bit. If it does they could bring that same mentality back to the mains as well. Personally I haven't found game play to my liking in there. I get HOed, picked and have to chase targets. All of which I can get in the mains with out hunting much.

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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #61 on: April 05, 2012, 06:08:44 PM »
not once a week if more people could get in there and try it they may like it, and basically you have a week long FSO that changes on a weekly basis and you can come and go as ya please there have been Axis and Allied AVA threads on this BBS for awhile  people could use those to coordinate and plan. You use period specific planes  and would expose more people to ac other than spixteens, ponys, la's and 190's. Also I think  you can also fly the SEC as walk on anytime(correct if wrong)

Battles last for weeks, engagements usually last a matter of minutes. When I really think about it, the times I had the most fun playing AH was in FSO. Those fights got my heart pumping because there was an actual mission, there was a point for the fight, there was a purpose for staying alive and hitting your targets. The fight is won through superior engagement tactics, not just through sheer numbers. The MA is completely pointless when you put the two scenarios side by side and I guess that was my original point. The MA has no real purpose and neither do week long scenarios from a 'game' perspective.
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #62 on: April 05, 2012, 06:16:36 PM »
Battles last for weeks, engagements usually last a matter of minutes. When I really think about it, the times I had the most fun playing AH was in FSO. Those fights got my heart pumping because there was an actual mission, there was a point for the fight, there was a purpose for staying alive and hitting your targets. The fight is won through superior engagement tactics, not just through sheer numbers. The MA is completely pointless when you put the two scenarios side by side and I guess that was my original point. The MA has no real purpose and neither do week long scenarios from a 'game' perspective.

I understand and agree that's why I hyped the AVA as an alternative. 2 side maps generally set up with objectives in the notes, a place to plan, strats spread out along the map and your gonna have to get out of the usually ac suspects. Plus the maps are pretty dang nice in there. I go in the MA and try to find a fight away from the horde but I usually get destroyed(used to be in like 1-2 turns now I usually last like 4!) but I do get away from the herd when I cant take it anymore. I guess Im one of the stubborn noobs somebody talked about before.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2012, 06:18:47 PM by Nathan60 »
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #63 on: April 05, 2012, 06:22:16 PM »

I wish more people would try it as well. It would give them a taste of something different, and maybe wet their appetite a bit. If it does they could bring that same mentality back to the mains as well. Personally I haven't found game play to my liking in there. I get HOed, picked and have to chase targets. All of which I can get in the mains with out hunting much.

not saying it's perfect but I find the fights usually better and the crowd a lil more laid back.  as for hunting yes, the icons are set to short but the dar does show dots and bases flash so you can find the area to be in.
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #64 on: April 05, 2012, 09:56:35 PM »
The dominant culture in the LWMA right now is the sheep. Some years back it was the worshipors of the fight and now that time has passed. The sheep only know their now and don't care about your past.

You are blaming them for your unhappiness with how the game has turned out influenced by their numbers. The majority of them are happy with their current game play philosophy and don't care to become converts to yours. Most of you probably won't answer the door when the Jehovas come knocking. You expect different from the sheep when it's you knocking? A few will always go looking for something else, and will join you. But, the vast majority like what they are doing. Calling them names over it just like when someone insults you here in the forum, hardens their resolve to stay where they are and irritate you as much as they can. If you are here in the forum complaining, they must be doing something right by their philosophy.

It's obivious they are enjoying themselves. This game is not going to dry up and blow away becasue of them. You minority of fight worshipers may leave but, in time a portion of the sheep will become better at the game, gain confidence and split off looking for the fight to enhance their experience. It's up to you if you want to wait around for the next turn of the cycle.
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
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Re: This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!
« Reply #66 on: April 06, 2012, 09:05:35 AM »
This game is was and always will be about the FIGHT. The only reason I log on is to get into a fight. Sure I like to win but, even when I lose, I still have a good time uder the right conditions.

The reason many of us "fighters" cry foul to the "sheep" is they DO need to learn to break away from the flock to promote the game. If AH degrades to nothing but hordes avoiding each other and clubbing the minor resistance they encounter, eventually the minor resistance will disappear. Without ANY resistance the game will dry up and die. After all, what's the point of a multiplayer game where you never run into another player? Think about that the next time you're in the tower looking for that friendly darbar, or saddle up for that mission to wipe out an undefended base, or dive on that lone con with three enemies already on his six.

There is a large learning curve to this game and it takes a good amount of time to get proficient. So roll with the crowd till you get comfortable. But eventually you need to test yourself oudside the the flock. Trust me, it's much more fun to be a wolf than it is to be a sheep.
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