This game is so frustrating! No one flies the way I want them to!

[Kovel]

I agree pretty much with initial Citabria's post.

In AW I managed to kill 95% of enemies 1 vs 1. Then I moved to AH. I tried to do the same thing here. But due to the different flight model...and due to the fact that I had to start from scratch again...I got so frustrated that, well, what Citabria is saying...happened to me...

Nice macro-micro link stablished there Citabria (S).

 

[Slate]

  Some of the really good players have put a lot of time into learning ACM and put in a lot of practice time. What is the player who can't put in that amount of time to do? They may never be good enough to challenge the Vets of AH. Thats where you need to change tactics as the Allies did in WW2. We did not try to turn fight a Zero in a P-40.
 
  The noobs need to protect themselves from the wolves and learn not to put themselves in bad situations or they will be killed time after time, frustrated, losing interest in the game. You must survive first to be able to score a kill. Once they LAND two kills their journey to AH addiction will be complete. 

[Midway]

  Some of the really good players have put a lot of time into learning ACM and put in a lot of practice time. What is the player who can't put in that amount of time to do? They may never be good enough to challenge the Vets of AH. Thats where you need to change tactics as the Allies did in WW2. We did not try to turn fight a Zero in a P-40.
 
  The noobs need to protect themselves from the wolves and learn not to put themselves in bad situations or they will be killed time after time, frustrated, losing interest in the game. You must survive first to be able to score a kill. Once they LAND two kills their journey to AH addiction will be complete. 

Very well said. 

In my case I got frustrated with the constant dying so focused exclusively on fighter skills which took months of much time to get to an above average level with a lot of help from TA and DA pilots.  Finally I have a decent chance against the vets.

[Kovel]

In my case I got frustrated with the constant dying so focused exclusively on fighter skills which took months of much time to get to an above average level with a lot of help from TA and DA pilots.  Finally I have a decent chance against the vets.

^This is what I did more than 10 years ago. Too tired to do it again 

 

[fuzeman]

<snip>, if you think about it though hoing or running from you is usually the right thing to do in the MA because trust me they are not going to learn much from a 2 turn fight lol.<snip>

Just what are they going to learn from Hoing or running?  And if you look at why you died in a 2 turn fight , you can learn something, if you want to.

EDIT-Midway, did you ever get in touch with a Trainer and spend time with them?

[Shuffler]

...it's like they all want to shoot me down......................... ..........................

[Butcher]

...it's like they all want to shoot me down......................... ..........................

Of course, you are the crown jewel to someone like me who knows 1 wrong move and you'd flame me in a heart beat.

I have a bucket list of players I drop everything to go after, those B-38s are ALL on my list 

[Midway]

Just what are they going to learn from Hoing or running?  And if you look at why you died in a 2 turn fight , you can learn something, if you want to.

EDIT-Midway, did you ever get in touch with a Trainer and spend time with them?

I did.  Several of them and still go to the TA to learn.   I had great sessions with Badboy and Pervert recently but visited with morfiend, bigrat, and others as well in the past. 

Most important thing I learned recently is when slow turn fighting to not let your aeroplane roll slightly due to a stall, instead hold her steady as you can right on th edge of the stall horn/buffet line.   My trainer counted each time I rolled slightly and the third time said "Ok, you're done" and shot me down.   Reason is that the stall recovery causes material loss of E.  When I corrected that, he couldn't get a shot.   

TA is great when you can find a trainer. 

[Changeup]

With so little time to fly during the summer (kids baseball, biz travel) this thread has helped me make the decision to spend all of my time in the TA with Morf, BigRat, Bighorn (I hope) and others.  Those guys, and opinions vary, will carve anyone up....back-channel discussions with old sticks included in that opinion.  There are the players of this game and then there are the true students of the game and they are the latter.  One hour with any of them will make you a better pilot. 

[Ruah]

excellent thread in that there does not seem to really be a complaint or a criticism but an observation.

Overall I try to limit my calling out people to 200 since I believe that it is the community that needs to do quality control.  If I work my way up from 6k to 15k dodging several picking attempts along the way, then the opponent dives out and returns 5/10 mins later to pick again - that is not wolf or sheep, that is simply unacceptable and it is up to the community to call that behavior out. The difference between extension and running is a fine line and older more experienced pilots have to take the time to point out the differences.  It is a small community here, so it is what we make it.

[JOACH1M]

JOACHIM,

With all the respect for giving a personal opinion about you.....

You (IMO) are an excellent pilot, but I'm liking your latest posts here and there.....you're about to get the whole picture and become as a good player as the excellent virtual pilot you are...

As I said, with respect, and hoping It didn't bother you.

One Salute Sir

 

[uptown]

With so little time to fly during the summer (kids baseball, biz travel) this thread has helped me make the decision to spend all of my time in the TA with Morf, BigRat, Bighorn (I hope) and others.  Those guys, and opinions vary, will carve anyone up....back-channel discussions with old sticks included in that opinion.  There are the players of this game and then there are the true students of the game and they are the latter.  One hour with any of them will make you a better pilot.  

BigRat has been helping me for the last couple of weeks I can see some improvement in my merges and stall fighting tools already. I actually work up a sweat during those training sessions just trying to do what he makes look so easy.   Those trainers are great and I'm glad they're so willing to help folks out like they do.

[Midway]

BigRat has been helping me for the last couple of weeks I can see some improvement in my merges and stall fighting tools already. I actually work up a sweat during those training sessions just trying to do what he makes look so easy.   Those trainers are great and I'm glad they're so willing to help folks out like they do.

I wish Bruv, Kazaa, Leviathn, and Grizz were trainers, on occasion. 

[JOACH1M]

I wish Bruv, Kazaa, Leviathn, and Grizz were trainers, on occasion. 

All of them would DA you or TA if you just would ask...

[Slash27]

All communities eventualy have segments who compete to define the reality of what it means to be a proper and right minded member if there is no super controlling body forcing the definition onto the community as a membership due. The segment with the most emotionaly satisfying definition tends to wrest tacit control. Being rewarded with the subsiquent favor of the community body via shared identity. Sheep reward sheep or sheep dogs. Not wolves and lions who dine on sheep while telling them they suck for being sheep. High Risk Takers  who were needed to found the community.

Historicly high risk takers have never ruled mature communities. The risk takers have no tollerence for the masses of the less inclined and tend to abuse them for the difference. Then the risk takers become relegated to the side lines and the past if they don't incurr a bloody revolution or a rope. They are eventualy enshrined as the legends of the founding of the communities because high risk takers generaly blase the trail for the future stages of communities development. Or they go start their own company with a name like frappel or micro plop.

The sheep sacrafice them on the alter of their own success or make them irrelevant to the realities of being a good and proper sheep. Along the way nativistic resurgences will happen generaly being treated as extreamists. But, the cycle of community evolution plods forward and over them.

Welcome to the new stampeed and thank you for blazing the trails. Now get back up on your shiny gold plated pedistals, strike another heroic pose, and quit being annoying. The sheep are here to stay and they like being in flocks. Sheep taste like sheep always has. Eat or don't eat. I doubt if they care in an unlimited lives game.

I will bet them not caring is the real source of this overall posting. The old gods and spirits died out because nobody cared anymore.

 

It's nice to have insight from the timid cannon fodder point of view. To each their own I guess but to run and go hide before you get hurt in a video game that's about figthing seems odd and a waste of time. Unless of course it's just for the social aspect of it. Getting drunk and blithering on for hours talking to the computer isn't appealing either in my opinion. Maybe this game needs an arena where you sit around a virtual table and try to bs others in to how smart and enlightened you are. Maybe throw a deck of cards in or something. Possibly make it to where you ride around on a train through the MA country side safe and sound while the fight rages in the distance?