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Offline FTJR

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Re: Ki 64 inverted Stall/Spin
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2012, 01:28:30 AM »
The reason behind my madness of dropping the gear is to seek a change, however subtle, in the centre of gravity. Does it require it? Only time will tell, its just the technique I use.
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Offline Ruah

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Re: Ki 64 inverted Stall/Spin
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2012, 10:02:23 AM »
I get the core idea and I am sure there are certain situations where it would help - it is just that the less I have to do the better in high work load situations.  of course if all else fails, the gear is coming down too. . .  :joystick:

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Re: Ki 64 inverted Stall/Spin
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2012, 04:33:16 PM »
final post on this and I suppose the thread can go.

cutting engine works, and right away - I can confirm that now.  I was against MikeD in his spit8 today and needed a little more vertical separation before I could make my next move.  flaps out, steep climb, low e and the plane slipped back into the stall (it is very noticeable - the stalling ends and you drift back and flip over).  I cut power and the nose came right around right away.  Of course on the downswing I had to make a break and try to create new separation, but I lived.

cheers again for trick.

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Offline nrshida

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Re: Ki 64 inverted Stall/Spin
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2012, 03:39:19 AM »
You can avoid entering this state by always maintaining at least half power as you stall vertically. This condition often begins with a short backwards slide (you can verify this with smoke in the TA). By contrast the late model 109s seem very much more docile in this position and will naturally go nose low if you neutralise the stick.

You can also exploit this attribute to do some interesting post stall manoeuvres. You can even fly the Hayate backwards for about a second or two. Once you've done this six times in a row it unlocks the Aces High thrust vectoring cheat code. This is me transitioning to forward flight after doing a vertical takeoff in the TA:-



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Re: Ki 64 inverted Stall/Spin
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2012, 12:16:08 PM »
i will be ready in a week!

Now that I know how to get out of it, it is a good way to hammer head.

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Re: Ki 64 inverted Stall/Spin
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2012, 08:02:56 PM »
You can avoid entering this state by always maintaining at least half power as you stall vertically. This condition often begins with a short backwards slide (you can verify this with smoke in the TA). By contrast the late model 109s seem very much more docile in this position and will naturally go nose low if you neutralise the stick.

You can also exploit this attribute to do some interesting post stall manoeuvres. You can even fly the Hayate backwards for about a second or two. Once you've done this six times in a row it unlocks the Aces High thrust vectoring cheat code. This is me transitioning to forward flight after doing a vertical takeoff in the TA:-

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Yep, you can tail-slide the Ki-84 for a bit, before it flattens out. Great fun!
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Re: Ki 64 inverted Stall/Spin
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2012, 09:15:28 PM »
the snap stall roll is the most deadly move that plane can do...leaves many a victims scratching their head.

tail slides and maneuvers like that take to long and leave you vulnerable......

of course this is my opinion :t