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Offline JOACH1M

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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2012, 04:49:56 PM »
If HTC perks 51d, la7, k4, or the d9, it would be the dumbest move...
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2012, 04:52:40 PM »
Quote from: JOACH1M on April 19, 2012, 04:49:56 PM
If HTC perks 51d, la7, k4, or the d9, it would be the dumbest move...

I agree, however I think they should also unperk the spit 14. The general consensus of the community seems to be that the perk needs to go.
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2012, 04:56:39 PM »
Quote from: Tupac on April 19, 2012, 04:52:40 PM
I agree, however I think they should also unperk the spit 14. The general consensus of the community seems to be that the perk needs to go.
Maybe, but the plane is a rocket...
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2012, 04:57:43 PM »
Quote from: JOACH1M on April 19, 2012, 04:56:39 PM
Maybe, but the plane is a rocket...

Not more than other unperked ones. See my post above how this "rocket" impacts on the MA...
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2012, 05:00:47 PM »
Quote from: JOACH1M on April 19, 2012, 04:56:39 PM
Maybe, but the plane is a rocket...
Less so than your Bf109K-4.

Do you think that should be perked?
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2012, 05:07:56 PM »
I think claiming the 109K4 should be perked if the spit14 is prked is a false argument. The only thing the K4 has going for it is is speed. The main issue? The ability to get the guns on target and kill something. The winner by 12 parsecs? The spit14.


So, don't compare them like they ought to have the same perk category. They are not the same plane. They do not handle the same. They do not fly remotely the same.
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2012, 05:12:25 PM »
Quote from: Lusche on April 19, 2012, 04:57:43 PM
Not more than other unperked ones. See my post above how this "rocket" impacts on the MA...
im sure if it gets unperked it will see ALOT more action in the MA.

Kinda like the c-hog back in the day before it got perked.
Quote from: Karnak on April 19, 2012, 05:00:47 PM
Less so than your Bf109K-4.

Do you think that should be perked?
no  :(
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2012, 05:14:16 PM »
Quote from: JOACH1M on April 19, 2012, 05:12:25 PM
im sure if it gets unperked it will see ALOT more action in the MA.


That'S what we hope for.

But "alot" doesn't mean it's going from minor player to main dominator. Not even a 10 fold increase in usage would make it a 'top player'. Especially as "alot" also means - lower K/D.
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2012, 05:21:15 PM »
The spit14 may turn worse than a 109k4, but it has I believe one of the, if not the best acceleration in the game, and shines at high alt...  :airplane:
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2012, 05:35:00 PM »
Quote from: RedBull1 on April 19, 2012, 05:21:15 PM
The spit14 may turn worse than a 109k4, but it has I believe one of the, if not the best acceleration in the game, and shines at high alt...  :airplane:

And at 2.0 fuel burn it has 15 minutes tops above 20k.
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2012, 05:37:23 PM »
Slipper?
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2012, 05:38:44 PM »
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2012, 05:42:46 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on April 19, 2012, 05:07:56 PM
I think claiming the 109K4 should be perked if the spit14 is prked is a false argument. The only thing the K4 has going for it is is speed. The main issue? The ability to get the guns on target and kill something. The winner by 12 parsecs? The spit14.
That is not true.  Speed, fuel endurance, twice as much WEP and firepower are all in favor of the Bf109K-4.  The Spitfire has better ballistics.  Handling somewhat favor the Bf109K-4 as well.

Saying speed is the only thing the Bf109K-4 has over the Spitfire Mk XIV is blatantly false.
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2012, 05:46:33 PM »
the double WEP time is the real killer, doesnt the K4 climb faster too?


edit: hispano ballistics may be great, but with the XIV's nose bobbing around they have the dispersion of a blunderbuss ... :bhead
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Re: Unperk the spit14
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2012, 05:51:50 PM »
Quote from: RTHolmes on April 19, 2012, 05:46:33 PM
the double WEP time is the real killer, doesnt the K4 climb faster too?

From a series of tests I'm currently running in another context, showing the climb profile of a few fighters. All with WEP until it runs out, no DT (not even the slipper on the XIV).



The numbers on the data points are time in minutes, X axis is miles, Y axis is altitude in thousand feet. Work in progress
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