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Photographers, suggestions requested.
« on: April 21, 2012, 02:31:29 PM »
I know we have some professional photographers around so I'm looking for some buying suggestions.
I've been using a Canon T50 SLR (circa 1980s) for the past year or so and have gotten use to it, but it seems its time has come. The camera is getting worse and worse with quality and even even taking a picture, two batches of Film came out blank despite having been used no more than a week ago. So, I'm looking for a good DSLR Camera and Lens for continued use. I primarily use the camera for Plant-life, landscapes and Airshows (Been using primarily an 80 to 210mm lens and a 50mm lens).

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So, again, looking for a good DSLR Camera and Lens for the appropriate usage, with any luck without having to sell my kidney and lung. :)

Thanks for any help.
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Re: Photographers, suggestions requested.
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2012, 02:37:05 PM »
I've always been happy with my phones camera, i've taken a few good ones every now and then

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Re: Photographers, suggestions requested.
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2012, 02:56:51 PM »
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Re: Photographers, suggestions requested.
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2012, 02:57:48 PM »
I use a Nikon D90 myself. I don't know much about Canon but, if their older lenses are compatible with a newer DSLR then by all means stay with cannon so you can continue to use the lenses you already own. If they are not useable then go to a photography store and hold both Nikon and Canon and get which ever one YOU feel more comfortable holding. Clearly I am going to recommend Nikon just as someone who uses Canon will recommend a Canon. Get what you like. You really can't go wrong with either brand. This is my store of choice for camera gear. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/  Now I am in no way shape or form a professional. This is just one of my many expensive hobbies.

Here are some of my pictures with my D90 and my favorite lens that I own AF-D 80-200mm 2.8 (the ducati and fifi photos were different lenses)

















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Re: Photographers, suggestions requested.
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2012, 05:13:44 PM »
I know PfactorDave is a professional using Canon, so if you want to stick with Canon he's the guy to ask.

I'm a part-time photographer (meaning I have a real job but I shoot youth sports, family portraits etc.. on the side mostly to pay for my wildlife and nature photography hobby) I presently use Sony/Minolta gear but have been contemplating switching to Nikon (still a Sony sensor) when my present body dies or becomes hopelessly outdated.  I'm just not super thrilled with the new line of Sony bodies with electronic viewfinders, they work and have their advantages, but I still prefer a full frame 100% optical VF.

Honesty I think it's hard to go wrong in the DSLR market today, Canon, Nikon, Sony and Pentax all make fine cameras (sorry Olympus not a fan of M43 sensors, and Sigma became a joke with the $10,000 SD1)  that are usually more capable then the photographers using them.   Don't get to caught up in the specs of the body though, in the digital age there is always a newer better camera body, they will come and go.  It's the lenses that really make a system, and in the digital age they will long outlast the camera body.


If you just need basic walk around, wide angle, and mid-tele lenses, any of the 4 makers I mentioned will have all the lenses you'd want.   If you want to get into really spendy stuff like super-fast or super long telephoto, or odd stuff like tilt/shift lenses then Canon or Nikon have a better selection (keep in mind I'm talking about very, very $$$$$$$ lenses here) also third party makers like Sigma, Tamron and Tokina make a huge selections of lenses although they are usually not up to par optically with the likes of Canon L, or Nikkor G, or Sony/Minolta G or Carl Zeiss lenses.




I don't know much about Canon but, if their older lenses are compatible with a newer DSLR then by all means stay with cannon

Don't think that they are.    I could be wrong but I seem to recall that they went with a completely different mount when they can out with the EOS line in the late 80's.  I'm sure somebody makes a ring adapter though.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2012, 05:02:05 PM »
What's your budget?  If I know what you are looking to spend, I can suggest a body that will give you the best bang for your buck.

Yes, I'm a die hard Canon guy, and a full time professional photographer.  Here's most of what I carry when I am working a sports event like Baseball or Football.  Add a flash unit, a 1.4 tele-extender, a 2x tele-extender, a shooters vest, a two camera harness system, and some trash bags (in case it rains they make excellent disposable covers for the gear that I can use and keep working.) and you'd have my basic sports rig.



I agree with Saggs, Canon and Nikon are the way to go if you want to get even more serious at some point down the road, simply because of the wide variety of lenses and accessories.

I personally will never recommend a third party lens.  I've had Tokina and Tamron lenses in the past, while less expensive then Canon lenses, they are quite sub par in comparison.  The difference between a Tokina 300mm f2.8 and a Canon 300mm f2.8 is quite stunning.  I literally gave all my Tamron and Tokina lense away to my sister-in-law and replaced them with Canon glass.

Something you might want to look into is a macro lens and a set of extension tubes.  You can do some really cool close up flower shots.  Here's a photo I took a couple years ago with a 100mm Macro lens of a gerber daisy.  I love the color and that you can see the pollen.  Forgive the quality a bit, this is a scan of a print (my scanner is crappy and old), it was easier to take it off the wall in the bathroom then search the archives for the digital file.   :D



Nothing you buy today is going to take your current lenses, unfortunately.  So choosing a brand and the direction you want to go is very important for you now.  For me, I'm a Canon guy and if I didn't want to be a Canon guy...  I'd still be a Canon guy.  There's probably $15000 worth of gear in that photo above, maybe more then that if I do the math.  Switching systems now, would be very expensive for me (Not that I want to or anything) , and you should see all of the other stuff I own on top of whats in the photo.  

I love my gear and I'm looking forward to the new high speed sports camera that Canon is bringing to market.  Fourteen frames per second and ISO speeds that are essentially night vision!   :banana:

The important thing is to choose a system, whether it is Nikon or Canon or whatever, that can grow with you as your interests and skills grow.  Like Saggs says though, the bodies get better all the time.  Your real investment is your lenses.  Always buy the best glass that you can for a given application.  Your lenses will transfer to the latest and greatest body when it comes out.  

I've had that 300mm f2.8 for almost 10 years now.  I've worn out 2 or 3 shutters on at least 3 different camera bodies in that time period.

Of course, I'm not saying you should run out and drop 15 grand on L series lenses and top of the line bodies.  I'm saying you should pick a system that you can get into for whatever your budget is, but as your interests evolve, you can upgrade to better glass and better bodies one piece at a time as you can afford them without ever having to completely change systems.

I did my first wedding with a Canon A2e (35mm film), a Tamron 28-105 f2.8 lens, and a flash unit (I can't remember which model I had).  Did my first sports with an old Canon AE-1 with an auto winder on the bottom and 70-200mm manual focus lens.  Now I shoot a Canon 5D Mk2 and a 1D Mk3 with all L series lenses.  I slowly upgraded stage by stage over the years to what I use now.

On a photography related note...  Here's a photo I took yesterday.  A local High School softball team has a player whose mother is fighting breast cancer.  They hosted a tournament yesterday and wore special pink uniforms for the event.  When the tournament ended, we did this shot of the girls standing in the shape of a breast cancer awareness ribbon.  They're going to get it mounted on a plaque with an encouraging inscription and present it to the girl's mother before she undergoes surgery in a few weeks.

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Re: Photographers, suggestions requested.
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 10:21:47 PM »
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I'm a part-time photographer (meaning I have a real job but I shoot youth sports, family portraits etc.. on the side mostly to pay for my wildlife and nature photography hobby) I presently use Sony/Minolta gear but have been contemplating switching to Nikon (still a Sony sensor) when my present body dies or becomes hopelessly outdated.  I'm just not super thrilled with the new line of Sony bodies with electronic viewfinders, they work and have their advantages, but I still prefer a full frame 100% optical VF.
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Kinda same story here.. I've been with Sony ( assimilated Minolta owner ) since the A100 came out.    Just picked up the A77.. and that VF does take a little getting used to.  I haven't done enough with it to formulate an definitive opinion, though I'm a little disappointed in rapid fire mode ( 12 fps ) as the VF can't keep up with the current image.. you just have to wait until the burst mode is over and you'll know what you got when you review it..   Though, to be honest, even with the mirror, it's hard to know what you're really getting too.  Aside from that, though.. the A77 is sweet.

As others have said.. the lenses will make the difference.  I have 2 Zeiss/Sony lenses that are simply awesome.  Well worth the extra $$$. 

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2012, 11:29:23 PM »
This is something i've kind of wanted to get into since I was 14, how would I as a 16 year old be recommended to start into this?
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Re: Photographers, suggestions requested.
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 11:35:37 PM »
I've always been happy with my phones camera, i've taken a few good ones every now and then

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I have yet to find a camera that will take pictures at night as well as my built in iPhone camera.





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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2012, 11:41:52 PM »
I have yet to find a camera that will take pictures at night as well as my built in iPhone camera.

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Beautiful... I envy you, my droid does an ok job at night time photo's. I know for a fact there's a telescopic lens that goes with the iphone, i've seen it before on face book. How many megapixels is your iphone?


Edit: Found it! haha http://www.dsstyles.com/accessories/iphone-accessories-iphone-telephoto-lens.html?src=gb_us&currency=USD



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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2012, 11:44:41 PM »
Beautiful... I envy you, my droid does an ok job at night time photo's. I know for a fact there's a telescopic lense that goes with the iphone, i've seen it before on face book. How many megapixels is your iphone?

8, although IIRC the zoom is digital just like the other iPhones.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 11:47:05 PM »
8, although IIRC the zoom is digital just like the other iPhones.
Same, mine is 8, the lens on mine sticks out like a sore thumb. I know on the iphone the camera is really tiny.
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2012, 11:49:16 PM »
Same, mine is 8, the lens on mine sticks out like a sore thumb. I know on the iphone the camera is really tiny.

HEY! My camera isn't tiny, it's average.  :D
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2012, 11:50:41 PM »
HEY! My camera isn't tiny, it's average.  :D
:rofl :rofl :rofl Now that just made my day

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2012, 05:28:20 AM »
Nice highjacking guys.  He is not interested in a camera phone. He is asking about a DSLR. As for night shots, get back to me when your iphone can take a picture like this:


I'll bet money it will just look like a white light in the sky