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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2012, 06:56:42 PM »
Yeah, the D-3 will be no more of a hanger queen than it is now. Really the one thing that gets it use is the massive 1800kg bomb. The G-2 won't carry that, so no reason to assume D-3 numbers will suddenly plummet after the update.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2012, 06:56:56 PM »
How does the stuka's cannons compare with the  il2 in terms of penetration?

Also are the guns synced?

Edit:  Can the G model also carry a bomb with the cannons?  I do notice a centerline bomb shackle :noid
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2012, 07:05:35 PM »
I think I just found my new fighter.

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2012, 07:07:54 PM »
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2012, 07:20:18 PM »
How does the stuka's cannons compare with the  il2 in terms of penetration?

Also are the guns synced?

Edit:  Can the G model also carry a bomb with the cannons?  I do notice a centerline bomb shackle :noid

Guns are synced if I recall correctly and the BK 37's are better than the NS-37's.  No, G-2 didn't carry ords with the BK 37's.  If you look in the screenshots, the G-2 doesn't have the "sling" on it with the BK 37's equipped.  I'm not really sure if it could carry ords at all though. :headscratch:


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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2012, 07:29:43 PM »
Looks like a cool med/low alt bomber hunter.  :)
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2012, 07:29:53 PM »
How does the stuka's cannons compare with the  il2 in terms of penetration?
They have better penetration than the Il-2's, but the Il-2 has 100 rounds and the Ju87 has 24 rounds.  Also the Il-2 is much tougher and more survivable.

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Also are the guns synced?
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Looks like a cool med/low alt bomber hunter.  :)
I suspect that most, or all, bombers are faster than the Ju87G-2.  Also remember that the 37mm rounds are AP, not HE.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2012, 07:45:05 PM »
Well since the Stuka actually WAS a dive bomber, and will be better able to make diving attacks than the IL-2 or Hurricane IID, I expect that will be less of an issue, than it would be for the IL-2 or IID.


But you're probably right, since the general arena population isn't what you'd call great at analyizing their attack, and breaking the situation down to see what went wrong.

Do some research and find out what the typical angles of attack were for the Il-2, Hurricane IID, and Stuka G.  They were far more shallow than you think.  The ranges in which the guns were fired were typically INSIDE 400 yards and usually closer to 200 yards.  The window of opportunity to fire was very short, hence the desire of a few well placed shots vs spraying and praying.  Pilots were not going to dive at a 60° and sharper angle at 250+ miles per hour, fire accurately at 200-400 yards, and pull up in a safe amount of time.  Shallow dives were the name of the game.  Obviously, what was true in WWII is not in AH.   
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2012, 07:47:26 PM »
I know the D3 was better, but I kinda wish they'd add the B-2 as well. It would open up the R-2 model as well (DTs outboard on wings instead of 50kg bombs, single centerline bomb) and that square canopy looks very retro compared to the sleek D-3.

Slower, less power than the D, but still I hope they consider adding it (if not with this update, at least sometime down the road).

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2012, 07:52:13 PM »
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2012, 07:57:14 PM »
Looks like a cool med/low alt bomber hunter.  :)

I don't think there is a level bomber in the game that is slower than the Ju-87.  Waste of time if you intend to use the Ju 87G-2 for that job.

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2012, 08:26:18 PM »
I don't think there is a level bomber in the game that is slower than the Ju-87.  Waste of time if you intend to use the Ju 87G-2 for that job.

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Base defense on low alt bombers comming in, would be about the only way I see them attacking level bombers, unless the 87 is lucky and got alt on some bombers. But again, pretty rare to see it happen I am sure.











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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2012, 08:28:13 PM »
Trust me, I tried bomber hunting in the Ju-87G in WB, it's nearly impossible. It's just that slow. It's speed was a benefit to it for aiming at tanks on the battlegrounds, but like the Storch also a weakness (leaving it vulnerable to ground fire).

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2012, 08:44:33 PM »
Awesome pics beau!

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2012, 09:50:07 PM »
I don't think there is a level bomber in the game that is slower than the Ju-87.  Waste of time if you intend to use the Ju 87G-2 for that job.

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