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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2012, 03:39:22 PM »
What are the differences of the Ju87G-1 and the Ju87G-2?

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2012, 03:41:20 PM »
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2012, 03:46:52 PM »
oh hell yes, thank you HTC!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2012, 03:46:56 PM »
Thumbs up to HTC and Co. for updating this beloved aircraft!   :aok  

For those getting all giddy like a little girl with the news of the Stuka G model, be sure and compare the Hurricane IID vs the Stuka G before you celebrate too much.   ;)  The Hurricane IID is faster, climbs way better, and without even looking at the stats I bet it accelerates far better too.  
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2012, 03:51:39 PM »
What are the differences of the Ju87G-1 and the Ju87G-2?

Since the G-2 was based on the D-5 airframe, it would have had a 1 foot longer wingspan than the D-3/G-1.  It also had a higher diving speed than the G-1.

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2012, 03:53:34 PM »
Thumbs up to HTC and Co. for updating this beloved aircraft!   :aok  

For those getting all giddy like a little girl with the news of the Stuka G model, be sure and compare the Hurricane IID vs the Stuka G before you celebrate too much.   ;)  The Hurricane IID is faster, climbs way better, and without even looking at the stats I bet it accelerates far better too.  


You forgot to add that the Hurricane IID also has a far better chance of surviving a fight against a fighter than the G-2.

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2012, 03:54:30 PM »
Possibility of adding the D5 and 20mm wing guns maybe.

Adding the D-5 would make the D-3 a hanger queen.

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2012, 03:59:10 PM »
Thumbs up to HTC and Co. for updating this beloved aircraft!   :aok  

For those getting all giddy like a little girl with the news of the Stuka G model, be sure and compare the Hurricane IID vs the Stuka G before you celebrate too much.   ;)  The Hurricane IID is faster, climbs way better, and without even looking at the stats I bet it accelerates far better too.  

all true, but doesn't the 37mm on the stuka hit harder?  even if it doesn't you will still find me behind the controls of the stuka, ripe for the slaughter.  :D
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2012, 04:00:46 PM »
30 rounds total IIRC, right?

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2012, 04:05:10 PM »
Adding the D-5 would make the D-3 a hanger queen.

Well A: D-3 is hanger queen already and B: what problem would it be if D-5 would replace the D-3 as a dive bomber Stuka of choise in the LWA?



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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2012, 04:12:59 PM »
30 rounds total IIRC, right?

12 x 37mm rounds ....6 per gun?
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2012, 04:25:34 PM »
12 x 37mm rounds ....6 per gun?

2x6 rounds per gun = 24 rounds total

And I'm very curious to see if the very limited impact angle requirement will be modeled as well. If so, I expet a lot of whines ("Should have easily penetrated at that range! HTC is biased against German stuff!") and a small minority of experts being able to kill any tank at will:




See how the max penetration at 100m goes down rapidly when approaching an impact angle of 60°
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2012, 04:31:29 PM »
Well since the Stuka actually WAS a dive bomber, and will be better able to make diving attacks than the IL-2 or Hurricane IID, I expect that will be less of an issue, than it would be for the IL-2 or IID.


But you're probably right, since the general arena population isn't what you'd call great at analyizing their attack, and breaking the situation down to see what went wrong.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2012, 04:33:37 PM »
quick question for those who know.   were the dive flaps removed on the tankbusting setup?

*edit* nevermind, did a little quick research and saw that dive brakes where removed starting with the G-1 variant
« Last Edit: May 09, 2012, 04:43:11 PM by tmetal »
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2012, 04:38:38 PM »
Snail,
if i see that diagram right, from 600m and with an impact angle of 50 degrees (very poor hit) it still could penetrate a 35mm thick armor.
Thats way thicker than the top of most of the tanks.
Also, with the new GV vis system, you only can see their icon from 730 meters, ergo most shots will be taken from closer ranges.
Wont be as hard to get a kill. Just my theory tho.
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