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Offline zack1234

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #90 on: May 10, 2012, 10:18:10 AM »
Quote from: Bruv119 on May 10, 2012, 08:15:27 AM
looks very nice wtg  Greebo   :aok

now for the mossie tse tse!!   :D

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #91 on: May 10, 2012, 10:48:41 AM »
Quote from: Debrody on May 10, 2012, 01:27:47 AM
Not as much. Turns great, not as bad in climb rate (without ords), dives excellent. The only problem is, they can run away before the lil peashooters take effect. Still can survive long enough til the help arrives.
With 20mm cannons at least you could shoot their running arse or keep them from hoing.
Running into a Ju87D-3 when I was flying an A6M3 gave me the most dominating fight I have had in a long time.  The Ju87 was completely outclassed by the A6M3.  It was slow, clumsy and helpless.  Adding 20mm cannons to it would not have helped.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #92 on: May 10, 2012, 10:55:06 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on May 10, 2012, 10:48:41 AM
Running into a Ju87D-3 when I was flying an A6M3 gave me the most dominating fight I have had in a long time.  The Ju87 was completely outclassed by the A6M3.  It was slow, clumsy and helpless.  Adding 20mm cannons to it would not have helped.

:lol One of the most maneuverable fighter against a slow, underpowered dive bomber. Gee, wonder what might've happened.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #93 on: May 10, 2012, 10:55:28 AM »
Doesnt the regular Stuka have F3? Does that mean the tank buster will too? At least till the Waaaaaa's start?
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #94 on: May 10, 2012, 11:04:40 AM »
Quote from: Volron on May 10, 2012, 10:10:38 AM
I'm getting an itchy trigger finger... :x  Raph, we HAVE to wing up together when the BK 37's are released.  We shall rain death upon them in style! :devil

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #95 on: May 10, 2012, 11:06:52 AM »
Quote from: Rich52 on May 10, 2012, 10:55:28 AM
Doesnt the regular Stuka have F3? Does that mean the tank buster will too? At least till the Waaaaaa's start?

Neither version of them should have F3.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #96 on: May 10, 2012, 11:09:09 AM »
Quote from: Reaper90 on May 10, 2012, 11:06:52 AM
Neither version of them should have F3.

If the Il-2 loses F3, so should the Stuka.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #97 on: May 10, 2012, 11:10:11 AM »
Quote from: Rich52 on May 10, 2012, 10:55:28 AM
Doesnt the regular Stuka have F3? Does that mean the tank buster will too? At least till the Waaaaaa's start?

Hmm... I will give HTC the benefit of the doubt on this one.  Look at what they did with the Mossi FB Mk VI and the Mossi B Mk XVI.  One has F3 ability and one does not.  If HTC saw the light and took away F3 from the Il-2, and the Hurricane IID does not have it, then perhaps as time goes on HTC will re-evaluate each and every aircraft.  I think applying F3 capability to a class of planes if the wrong way to go about it.  I'd like to see it done on a case by case basis.  The D3A, SBD, and Stuka do not need nor deserve F3 capability, imo.                          

As for the new Stuka and F3, wait and see.     :aok
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #98 on: May 10, 2012, 11:15:18 AM »
Quote from: Butcher on May 10, 2012, 11:09:09 AM
If the Il-2 loses F3, so should the Stuka.

If either of them get F3 so should all 2+ crewed planes. Like the 110, 410, Mossie. Does the bomber-Mossie have F3 view?
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #99 on: May 10, 2012, 11:18:24 AM »
Quote from: PR3D4TOR on May 10, 2012, 11:15:18 AM
Does the bomber-Mossie have F3 view?

Yes, because it's classified as a bomber.
HTC had to make the IL-2 a fighter/attacker with the fighter scoring option hidden (making that plane look as if it were the only pure "attack" plane) to get rid of the F3 view. The view modes are tied to categories, not individual planes.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #100 on: May 10, 2012, 11:18:58 AM »
Quote from: titanic3 on May 10, 2012, 10:55:06 AM
:lol One of the most maneuverable fighter against a slow, underpowered dive bomber. Gee, wonder what might've happened.

The tactics I'd have used in the Mossie would have been different, but the outcome would have been just as sure.


As to F3 on the Mossie XVI, nobody complains about it because what is it going to do with it?  Set up awesome lead shots with the guns it doesn't have?
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #101 on: May 10, 2012, 11:38:21 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on May 10, 2012, 11:18:58 AM
As to F3 on the Mossie XVI, nobody complains about it because what is it going to do with it?  Set up awesome lead shots with the guns it doesn't have?


Spotting the enemy 262 slowly creeping up in my supposed "blind spot"? ;)
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #102 on: May 10, 2012, 11:43:10 AM »
Quote from: Lusche on May 10, 2012, 11:38:21 AM

Spotting the enemy 262 slowly creeping up in my supposed "blind spot"? ;)
I'm not saying it isn't useful and shouldn be there.  I am saying people don't whine about it because it can't use it offensively.  The offensive use of F3 is what got the Il-2 in trouble.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #103 on: May 10, 2012, 11:50:52 AM »
There's a big difference between a bomber with 3 guns defending it and one with 10. That is why the B26 gets used so much.


Also, as a tangent, myself and some squaddies have quite successfully defended ourselves in B-25Cs against even Me262s. I got a 262 killer making lower 6 attacks at least 3 separate occasions, and one of my squaddies got 2 in a single sortie before as well.


Other than that, there's no comparison to B-25C and Ju-87.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #104 on: May 10, 2012, 11:52:34 AM »
as the number of 37mm rounds, what has been decided? is it 6 on each pod?
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