USA's jet fighter that wasn't built

[oakranger]

Really? No Duh. I said it wasn't built.

It has to have been in Combat. There is no number requirement. It was a squadron of 4 P-80's. I think chasing down the 234 to shoot it down qualifies as combat missions.

Two YP-80s were sent to the UK and two to Italy, but in no case were they intended for combat.  They were sent so that service pilots could give some feedback on them.  They did not fly anywhere near where they would encounter enemy aircraft and most certainly were never tasked with hunting any of them.  I am also highly skeptical of the claims about a pre-war US jet design given that the Whittle design was sent over by the UK during the war.

The only Allied jet to see combat was the Gloster Meteor Mk I, against V1s, and Meteor Mk III, against V1s and ground attack on the continent.

Last i read was they where about the fly their first mission hours after the German surrender.  Neverless, talking about the P-80 seeing combat in WWII is like beating a dead horse. 

[Karnak]

Last i read was they where about the fly their first mission hours after the German surrender.  Neverless, talking about the P-80 seeing combat in WWII is like beating a dead horse. 

So basically this is a "I know the British Meteor gets roundly castigated as not having seen real combat because all it did was shoot down drones and do some ground attack late in the war, but this one is American so we should add it despite it having seen absolutely no combat because it is American!" type of thing?

[TwinBoom]

deployed to a squad and flew 2 missions id say add it but perl the living hell out of it would be a nice way to spend all these perks i cant get rid off

[Rich52]

So basically this is a "I know the British Meteor gets roundly castigated as not having seen real combat because all it did was shoot down drones and do some ground attack late in the war, but this one is American so we should add it despite it having seen absolutely no combat because it is American!" type of thing?

I dont remember it ever getting "castigated". If anything I remember many wishing for it on both sides of the bloody pond..... wot?

[MarineUS]

Karnak is just being a jerk. Instead of countering the argument he decides to troll around and do the 'MURICA thing and accuse instead of saying "Hey...this is why it shouldn't be in game."

[Karnak]

No, in every Meteor thread there are always people saying that it doesn't qualify because those things weren't "real" combat.  Usually they are German aircraft fans, but sometimes they are just against more hair dryers being added.

[MarineUS]

At this point in AH they could literally add flying hair dryers to the game and I wouldn't care.

If I can shoot it down, then good to go.

[Karnak]

At this point in AH they could literally add flying hair dryers to the game and I wouldn't care.

If I can shoot it down, then good to go.

Perhaps an Evil Con Mission.....   

[MarineUS]

Sir! The temperature is rising in the next sector over. Nothing on radar yet.

"My God....they're doing an NOE hair dryer raid....SOUND THE ALARM!"

[Brooke]

Wow, look at the conceptual design for the L-133.  I had no idea the US had such a non-conventional design in the works back then.

[Rich52]

No, in every Meteor thread there are always people saying that it doesn't qualify because those things weren't "real" combat.  Usually they are German aircraft fans, but sometimes they are just against more hair dryers being added.

Oh, before you sounded before like an ex-Empire/Naval power guy with a inferiority complex. From what I remember "most" support the Meteor in the game. Most of all we Yanks.

[surfinn]

This link just sent a virus at my computer. Caution before viewing

[Karnak]

This link just sent a virus at my computer. Caution before viewing

Youtube?

Seems likely you picked the virus up elsewhere.

[Megalodon]

What I have found so far.
Most of the links don't work anymore on the first site.

http://forum.armyairforces.com/1st-FG-and-the-Lockheed-YP80A-Shooting-Star-m94873.aspx

http://warbirdsforum.com/showthread.php?t=990

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=71485

That 3rd link is great thanx for posting that... lots of info and good pics.

 

[tunnelrat]

No, in every Meteor thread there are always people saying that it doesn't qualify because those things weren't "real" combat.  Usually they are German aircraft fans, but sometimes they are just against more hair dryers being added.

The biggest frustration for the pilots of 616 Squadron was that they never clashed with the Me 262, or indeed with any German fighter aircraft. They came close towards the end of the war when a flight of Meteors encountered a force of Fw 190s, but they were forced to abandon their attack when other RAF fighters mistook them for Me 262s

So, had your boys not botched their run on those FW-190s, WE MIGHT HAVE METEORS IN GAME.