four die on Mt. Everest

[Masherbrum]

LOL, so what do YOU think they were thinking?

The world already knows its "there" so they cant say that again.

You don't climb, nor know any climbers.    Look up Rob Hall and find out what his last words were and the lives he saved, while he spared his own in 1996.    After you do that, imagine what his friend David Brashears said to himself when he found his friend while filming the IMAX film Everest.   

[Rich52]

You don't climb, nor know any climbers.    Look up Rob Hall and find out what his last words were and the lives he saved, while he spared his own in 1996.    After you do that, imagine what his friend David Brashears said to himself when he found his friend while filming the IMAX film Everest.  

Masherbrum it sounds to me like you expect me to go find what two people, who lived, said about people who died. Ive watched a lot of people dieing after doing stupid stuff and none of them said the stupid stuff they were doing was worth it. Mostly they said, "boy that was stupid".

But for conversation sake what do you think they say on the verge of freezing to death? Or as they are plummeting 20,000' to the rocks below? "Boy the view sure was worth it"?

It's morbid but they even have nicknames for the dead you pass on route, i.e. Green Boots.

They should maybe shorten it to "nitwit#1", "nitwit#2", and on and on to 219. Im sorry but these werent people dieing while trying to save people caught in a fire. They were nitwits killed trying to climb a mountain they had no business being on. And I dont care if its an Imax film. I'd bet $80,000 USD could feed a lot more starving children, currently eating in garbage dumps, that to use it to feed one huge ego buy doing something dumb...well....makes it looker dumber still. Especially if you get kilt.

Yaknow why I'd rather sit in a pub? "Because its there" Thats why.

[Masherbrum]

I don't know a thing about this topic. 

Keep at it. 

[Ruah]

too many people go up on that hill thinking its a guided tour. . .and die.

[Melvin]

But for conversation sake what do you think they say on the verge of freezing to death?

Actually, it's been said that freezing to death is quite a peaceful experience.


As your body shuts down, you fall asleep and then blackness.

[FiLtH]

As of the end of 2010 there were 219 deaths attributed to climbing Mount Everest. I think it is cool that some people need to do that or want to do that but I have never had the desire to do something like that.

            Theres been more than 135 deaths on Mount Washington here in New Hampshire since 1849. And its 1/6 the altitude. Probably most were hypothermia. Many dress for summer at the base and try going up dressed that way.

[F22RaptorDude]

I don't get what the big deal is, plenty of people have died climbing it, its the hazard thats well known and i'm sure your well aware of when doing something like that.

Actually, it's been said that freezing to death is quite a peaceful experience.


As your body shuts down, you fall asleep and then blackness.

1,000 ways to die lied to me, they said your body before it dies goes into shock and you feel like your burning up, or was it just another excuse to get someone partially nude  That show is such bs

[Scherf]

"Four die on Mount Everest."



Again?




<shrug>

[Rich52]

Actually, it's been said that freezing to death is quite a peaceful experience.


As your body shuts down, you fall asleep and then blackness.

Im sure its quite wonderful. God knows being very cold is a regular delight, falling into 36% water is quite blissful too. Yaknow I always wondered how stories describing certain ways to die ever get out cause..well...how can you tell a story if your dead?

Suddenly, you are blind, the wind freeze the blood in your veins, you can’t think and you can’t find your way anywhere! Instantly, you feel a deadly fear whilst your mind keeps falling into a helpless dizziness. You cant feel your fingers, you can’t feel your toes - there is ice on the white, dying tissue of your face and the roaring wind drowns your fellow climbers' desperate yells for each other. It’s too late for everything.

http://www.mounteverest.net/expguide/survivalrules.htm

While I dont celebrate any death I just dont consider these things to be a "tragedy". People dieing in a tornado is a "tragedy". Those dieing messing with a mountain, almost 4,000 others have already climbed, all for fame or ego, is more like Darwin at work. A "traffic jam of 150 climbers"? Good grief! Either way they are people with families and it all seems a waste. A waste of money ; A waste of life.

[Golfer]

Waste or not, it's theirs to spend. Both money and life. I know a guy who has summited Everest and was on the expedition that found the body of George Mallory the planning of which is what spurred my initial interest in the subject some years ago.

His attitude as a professional climber is at times different than the client climber but there's still that same special love and drive for what they're doing. While its not my cup of tea it's something I've come to respect in those that do it. For you to sit and deem their lives a waste from the comfort of your chair is your right but it doesn't mean you know anything about what you're talking about.

[Rich52]

Waste or not, it's theirs to spend. Both money and life. I know a guy who has summited Everest and was on the expedition that found the body of George Mallory the planning of which is what spurred my initial interest in the subject some years ago.

His attitude as a professional climber is at times different than the client climber but there's still that same special love and drive for what they're doing. While its not my cup of tea it's something I've come to respect in those that do it. For you to sit and deem their lives a waste from the comfort of your chair is your right but it doesn't mean you know anything about what you're talking about.

Try reading what I said again. I said the loss of life is the "waste". And where does one go to "learn" about turning yourself into a popscicle on a mountain 4,000 other have already climbed? Theres nothing noble about such a death.

I havnt spent my life in a chair and may know far more then you think.

[Golfer]

it all seems a waste. A waste of money ; A waste of life.

Ok.

Why do anything then?  Let's just everyone sit back in contentment and bask in the fact that we great humans have already done XYZ so no point in doing it again.

I don't consider sex a waste despite the fact it's been done before. Is that a waste of effort to you too?

[Shuffler]

Ok.

Why do anything then?  Let's just everyone sit back in contentment and bask in the fact that we great humans have already done XYZ so no point in doing it again.

I don't consider sex a waste despite the fact it's been done before. Is that a waste of effort to you too?

I used to go to the deep end of the pool sometimes. I did it because it was exciting.

[BigB]

Geeezz... Easy Rich...

They do it because it's their passion and they do it for the experience...

Like big game hunting ( or pick any hobby really ).. I could easily say who would spend the money and time
and effort to do something like that ? All that money thrown at equipment, ammo
flights, hotels, meals along with fighting the elements, insects customs, locals, etc, etc.
Heck, every species has been bagged and tagged and I can see/buy HD pictures of all as well
as probably buy any hide or mount I could want while "sitting in my chair".
But you do it happily and good for you ! It's your passion, life is short go for it...!

I would never do it and have no desire to hunt at all even "locally" ( even though I grew up hunting )
But that's just because it's not something I enjoy so I spend probably equal time and resources
doing things I do enjoy. It's all good.

If something were ever to happen in a bad way to you on an excursion, I would hope
most would think that it would be a terrible thing but at least you died doing what you loved..
Kind of like these folks who lost their lives... I'm not sure I would call it a noble death but you
at least gotta respect the fact that they followed their dream. How many of us don't even have
the guts to do that sometimes ?

And Golfer... as a side note... After 21+ years of marriage I probably have better odds of
making it up and off Everest than I do of having sex..... *sigh*


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[Golfer]

Ha!