Fw 200

[Rob52240]

I wish they'd add the Fw 200



I think the rest of this thread should consist of posts explaining why I'm FOS and about what other things we should get  first in terms of new toys, new models, new rules, a manhatten project, submarines, strat systems, maps, and even things totally unrelated to Aces High.

[The Fugitive]

Sound a little bitter. No one is allowed to have a different opinion than yours?

[Rob52240]

Nah, and I'm not even saying that I'm sure the Fw 200 should be the next thing to add to our arsenal.

It just seems like whenever someone posts anything a bunch of nay sayers with no manners come out of the woodwork.  Lately to me the forum seems like a place to have arguments instead of discussion and I'm a bit tired of it to be honest.

[Karnak]

Tell us what you like about the Fw200 and why you think it should be added.  Don't wait for others to define the conversation in a negative fashion.

[Rob52240]

4 Engine German bomber with decent defensive armament.

[Raphael]

seems legit
+1 to a big german bomber update that includes this and HE111 

[Karnak]

4 Engine German bomber with decent defensive armament.

What about the Fw200 meets these requirements?  True, it has four engines, but four engines don't magically make it better.  Look into it a bit more and see what its true capabilities were.

[Debrody]

This aircraft was used against the british convoys. It was successful with its very long range and later with the Fritz-X guided missile, but once the allied sent CVs, the FW-200s were done. Also their operation over the eastern front was a failure. It was a civil aircraft, its fuselage was weak (especially the rear section) also the defensive arnament couldnt be placed well. Was very slow and only carryed 2000kg of ordenance.

Even tho i like this elegant aircraft, i think the german bomber that should be added is the He-111 (historical stuff) or/and the Ju-188 (competitive in the LWMA) as they are much more inportant models than this one.

[Rob52240]

I don't think a plane should necessarily need to have great attributes as a requisite for adding it to the game. 

After all we do have ENY, OBJ and a brand new stuka on the way.

[Ruah]

the condor, feared by the British and one of the planes that could have won the war (amongst a list of other things).

[Butcher]

Up to 4300lbs of bombs, single 20mm and couple of 13mms, Certainly better then the Ju-88 in terms of defensive firepower.

[Karnak]

No, by no means are great stats a requirement.

However, when you call it a "4 Engine German bomber with decent defensive armament." that implies certain expectations on your part.  It, to American ears at least, makes one think of something like the B-17G.  Generally that has been how requests for the Fw200 have been presented.  If you want the Fw200 for what it was, recognizing that it is inferior to the Ju88A-4, that is well and good.

[TwinBoom]

What about the Fw200 meets these requirements?  True, it has four engines, but four engines don't magically make it better.  Look into it a bit more and see what its true capabilities were.

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Karnak fyi these arent wartime conditions +1 for the condor

[Karnak]

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Karnak fyi these arent wartime conditions +1 for the condor

I am not saying it shouldn't be added.  I am asking why he wants it in an effort to find out if he knows what he is asking for.  Heck, I have been strongly advocating for the Ki-43 which would be just about as useful/useless in the LWA.

My concern with this is that most people who ask for the Fw200 think they are asking for a German B-17 and aren't aware that the Fw200 was actually a slow, fragile civilian airliner converted into a long range maritime patrol aircraft.

If what he wants is that long range maritime patrol aircraft, more power to him.

[TwinBoom]

Rob

check out these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuF4wGkHA5g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwOWv_bMBrM