Text & Voice Muted

[SEseph]

I've played off and on since 2002.  Never been muted.  Never been banned.  Have behaved badly some.  I don't what what y'all are going on about.

I think it's not the muting, it's the wide range of what constitutes a mute from the mods. If Mod A says calling someone a Richard Cranium (in a vulgar form) is fine and people use it for hours and then Mod A logs and Mod B logs in, what was fine before might now get you muted.

I've said far far worse. I've seen you're "slightly bad" and think if I got muted once, without warning, for an hour for the harsh version of GoshDarn-It, then you and a good 80% of those using chat need an hour or more. Which I think by the way is completely ridiculous. Heck, I didn't even use the N... But I'll be darned (haha not getting me again) if I don't see people regularly using the same and they keep on talking. Is there any standard? Does this mod get to be a really really big sphincter if he's mad at me but his buddy over there gets let off? Why exactly does saying certain things constitute a mute? I understand alot of curses, but I can openly, and flagrantly call people Richard Cranium all day. We all know what I mean. My 11yr old niece knows what I mean, so why does that not raise the ire of these mods, but if I typed it out so you don't have to use an extra brain cell, I get my typing and speech privileges revoked.

That is why I even participated here in the first place. I wish I could be in the never been muted club, but I wasn't vulgar enough to be thought of as cool... 

[Guppy35]

A lot of you guys trying very hard to put the responsibility for how you act, and the limits of it, on someone else. 

It's just not that hard to not type something to push the limits.  The fact that HTC has to use volunteer babysitters is just downright sad.  Maybe they need to put up a signal light before folks enter the arena letting folks know if Mods are in the house or not so they know to be good.

I know at my 3 year olds preschool they have  STOP signs up so the kids know where they shouldn't go.  But they're 3, but the kids are deaf too so they need the visual cues.  I didn't think we had 3 year olds playing AH

[GOODBYE]

Never mass report someone either, not a fun time. 

[MrGeezer]

You really need a rule to define your behavior?  

Well, your local government thinks it's a requirement.  If in America, your local county thinks it's a requirement.  If in a school in the US that school mandates that is a requirement.  If you live in a large city your local ward and city government knows it's a requirement.  If you live in a county or state or nation those places mandate that it's a requirement.  Yet, this game (society) feels that no posted rules is fine & dandy yet expects people who subscribe their own cash should have no argument/qualms/expectations when thay are punished for infractions of RULES THAT ARE NOT POSTED NOR EXIST AND THE INFRACTIONS OF THOSE RULES ARE NOT POSTED NOR EXIST.

ROC drives down the road and is pulled over by a police officer.  The police officer does not inform ROC of what law he has broken nor explains what rights he does or does not have.  ROC is stuffed into a paddy wagon with other "rule breakers" but is never told anything.  ROC has no trial, is not informed of the "rules" he has broken or even remotely explained what the punishment is.  ROC is handed a note weeks later in his cell that says he has been found guilty of a rule enfraction and is sent to punishment (more than rule breakers get in AH even though there are no published rules or email warnings).  ROC is expected to never speak of what happened to him in public and never allowed to speak about his never made public "crime".  ROC....read Solzhinitzin.  In that scenerio you live in the USSR.  They have no rights and in our scenerio we have no rights either...except the right to cancel our subscription and go elsewhere.  Gulag.

[Guppy35]

Well, your local government thinks it's a requirement.  If in America, your local county thinks it's a requirement.  If in a school in the US that school mandates that is a requirement.  If you live in a large city your local ward and city government knows it's a requirement.  If you live in a county or state or nation those places mandate that it's a requirement.  Yet, this game (society) feels that no posted rules is fine & dandy yet expects people who subscribe their own cash should have no argument/qualms/expectations when thay are punished for infractions of RULES THAT ARE NOT POSTED NOR EXIST AND THE INFRACTIONS OF THOSE RULES ARE NOT POSTED NOR EXIST.

ROC drives down the road and is pulled over by a police officer.  The police officer does not inform ROC of what law he has broken nor explains what rights he does or does not have.  ROC is stuffed into a paddy wagon with other "rule breakers" but is never told anything.  ROC has no trial, is not informed of the "rules" he has broken or even remotely explained what the punishment is.  ROC is handed a note weeks later in his cell that says he has been found guilty of a rule enfraction and is sent to punishment (more than rule breakers get in AH even though there are no published rules or email warnings).  ROC is expected to never speak of what happened to him in public and never allowed to speak about his never made public "crime".  ROC....read Solzhinitzin.  In that scenerio you live in the USSR.  They have no rights and in our scenerio we have no rights either...except the right to cancel our subscription and go elsewhere.  Gulag.

You do understand you aren't in a public place when you play AH correct?  Your comparison isn't a valid one.

Should you ever  come into my house I would hope you are on your best behavior just as I would be if I came into yours.  I don't need to define my rules in my house, as I'd like to believe most folks are bright enough not to swear in front of the children, put their feet on the furniture, or track mud in on the carpet.   I wouldn't think of pushing limits in your house and I'm smart enough not to need you to have a written list on your door.  In fact I'd err on the side of even better behavior so as not to offend my host.

Kinda common sense don't you think?

And no, 15 bucks a month doesn't give you permission to be an idiot.  You don't like being in the house, you are welcome to leave.  You may leave screaming about the injustice of it all, but it won't really matter so why waste your time.  It's not going to change the rules in my house.

[lambo31]

If you need a rule to keep you from saying/texting something that is deemed inappropriate for young listeners/viewers that play this game then you should go now and slap your mommy for not teaching you manners.

Lambo

[ROC]

Umm, geezer, I don't know if you are serious or are arguing for the sake of arguing.  It should be embarrassing to have so little self control that one can argue in favor of a rule that defines what is an acceptable way of conducting oneself.  There still exists, for some, a level of pride and decency that goes beyond what someone else thinks about you, but is rooted in what you think of yourself.

There is already an acceptable code of conduct in the game.  If you are unable to comprehend what that is by now, the problem might not be in the rule, or lack thereof.

[Rich52]

Boy Im getting tired of the official party line when at least most of us know how the world works.

Billy and Bobby can say certain things while Jimmy and Johnny cant. Cause Billy and Bobby are tight with Tommy. Or at least hang in the same tree stand as Tommy.

There, I said what we all know but havnt said. Its that simple. We see it at work and all thru life. But the thing is we are the ones paid to go to work. One "Pays" to play a game and to ask for equity is not unreasonable.

As for me I stay off the comms. I listen to radios and talk to people all day and it gives me a headache. I just want a cartoon airplane and clear sky.

But good grief! Why do I have to explain all this while hearing the same manifesto every other post? We all know the deal here.

[ozrocker]

Geezer, I see you joined boards in January.
In case you didn't see yet, each Forum has the rules
for posting at the very top of the Forum.
These same rules seems to me, would apply IN-game as well (to the extent
that they can).
In any game/forum, there are set rules/standards of conduct.
The rules here are basically common sense, not too demanding.
There are always people that want to push or test the rules,
to see what they can get away with.
This is HT's house (as Guppy stated). Live by the rules, or pay the price.
We all know that if one feels unjustly punished, send the email to HT.
If you were unjustly punished, it will be taken care of.

P.S. Some of his posts have made me conclude that, not only is Daddkev always nude,
he is a Loony as well
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[The Fugitive]

I think it's not the muting, it's the wide range of what constitutes a mute from the mods. If Mod A says calling someone a Richard Cranium (in a vulgar form) is fine and people use it for hours and then Mod A logs and Mod B logs in, what was fine before might now get you muted.

I've said far far worse. I've seen you're "slightly bad" and think if I got muted once, without warning, for an hour for the harsh version of GoshDarn-It, then you and a good 80% of those using chat need an hour or more. Which I think by the way is completely ridiculous. Heck, I didn't even use the N... But I'll be darned (haha not getting me again) if I don't see people regularly using the same and they keep on talking. Is there any standard? Does this mod get to be a really really big sphincter if he's mad at me but his buddy over there gets let off? Why exactly does saying certain things constitute a mute? I understand alot of curses, but I can openly, and flagrantly call people Richard Cranium all day. We all know what I mean. My 11yr old niece knows what I mean, so why does that not raise the ire of these mods, but if I typed it out so you don't have to use an extra brain cell, I get my typing and speech privileges revoked.

That is why I even participated here in the first place. I wish I could be in the never been muted club, but I wasn't vulgar enough to be thought of as cool...  

Do you understand how the system works?

There are a list of words/phrases that are completely taboo. The "F" word and others that are not used in "polite company". Those on the list are AUTOMATIC. When you type them you get smacked by the server, NOT a MOD. There is also a list that has those words that are questionable but people use to skirt around the "rules". That's why it's a problem when you combine F4U with some words. The Server see's it as using one of these "tricks" to get around the rules and will AUTOMATICALLY smack you.

Then there are the MODs themselves. My GUESS is HTC has set rules for these people. They most likely are along the lines of "Let them play, but stop anything before it gets out of hand". So if you call someone a "name" and then let it go you may get away with it. If you push the issue and things get going the MOD steps in.....if one is on. If you call someone a name and let it drop EVERY TIME you get shot down I would think that it would get to be annoying and as we are dealing with a "human being MOD" you might get muted just for being annoying (Tho Midway seems to get past this a lot). While MODs are not perfect, even the nicest easy going guy is going to get tired of being poked.

I've been here since tour 21 and have never been warned or muted. There are rules of common sense and polite society. If a person can't figure out how to act with out getting "smacked" by the server or a MOD here,  I'd love to follow them around in real life and watch them get smacked around there.    

[hitech]

If we all followed this, there'd be no need for these threads. 

Or if someone who has been here this long would actually learn to retain the information on what to do when chat banned. I never see new guys posting these things....   

Pyro never said this.

[hitech]

Rich52: I would love to have 100% repeatability. But we live in the real world. Some times mods are on, some times not. Some time mods are in your country some times not. Some times mods are busy fighting, some times not.


So i understand the desire of consistency, we live in the real world where the system never will attain that.

Mods are simply players who have proven themselves to be level headed. They simply agree to moderate when they are playing.


The other system is player driven. If mods are not on, all players can choose if some one is crossing the line with the .report system.

But this topic has nothing to do with humans, and is 100% consistant. the OP and mute was done by a compute. So in this case you are way off base, because he was warned by the computer. He typed the same thing again, and he was muted.

HiTech

HiTech

[Karnak]

The Fugitive has the right of it.

I've been here for over ten years, though I play a lot less nowadays, and I have never even been warned about language, let alone actually muted.


People also need to understand that the 1st Amendment of the Bill of Rights applies only to government censorship and not at all to private censorship.

[Max]

So in this case you are way off base, because he was warned by the computer. He typed the same thing again, and he was muted.

HiTech

HiTech

[The Fugitive]

Rich52: I would love to have 100% repeatability. But we live in the real world. Some times mods are on, some times not. Some time mods are in your country some times not. Some times mods are busy fighting, some times not.


So i understand the desire of consistency, we live in the real world where the system never will attain that.

Mods are simply players who have proven themselves to be level headed. They simply agree to moderate when they are playing.


The other system is player driven. If mods are not on, all players can choose if some one is crossing the line with the .report system.

But this topic has nothing to do with humans, and is 100% consistant. the OP and mute was done by a compute. So in this case you are way off base, because he was warned by the computer. He typed the same thing again, and he was muted.

HiTech

HiTech

and this is why I'll never get to be a MOD