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Offline lunatic1

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #60 on: May 29, 2012, 12:39:28 PM »
looks to me like it's pretty easy to get a pilot wound--but i did vote for it
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #61 on: May 29, 2012, 12:43:33 PM »
looks to me like it's pretty easy to get a pilot wound--but i did vote for it

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #62 on: May 29, 2012, 12:54:13 PM »
I just blew my load
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #63 on: May 29, 2012, 12:56:28 PM »
One question I never thought to ask was about the flash. With the visibility really enhanced looking downward, does the flash blind the pilot? I know the guns/cannons have flash suppressors though those are not complete. Certainly at night I could see this being a big issue.

Anyone know?

Boo

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #64 on: May 29, 2012, 01:00:23 PM »
Me410 and a Stuka.... I just came :banana:
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #65 on: May 29, 2012, 01:03:08 PM »
I'm sure there are sound guidelines or criteria for perking a ride. With the 410, as Lusche stated maybe the 50mm gun pack is perked, but the bird as a whole is not.

I could see the 50mm pack being a sniper in the MA. You fly around, 25k, pray you don't run into any fighters, hunting buffs. You see a random flight of B-24s/B-17s/Lancs, drop down in altitude, slow down a bit and park on their "6" at 1.5k and start taking shots at them. Short of 999000, no one touches you. Within minutes you've killed all three buffs, feel pretty good about yourself, 'lather, rinse, repeat' until a lone fighter shows up. At this point life changes.

If the above becomes common I think we see more buffs flying with a buddy for protection. That alone is worth it. If you want to kill buffs, gotta get through the escort first. Who knows but should be fun to see how it happens.

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #66 on: May 29, 2012, 01:14:30 PM »
Great job Superfly and Cactus!

Haven't been this exited about a new plane since Brewster was introduced. :)


The Luftwaffles should stop crying for the 410 now.

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Who's crying?

Hmm...aren't people allowed to be exited to fly it? Or what are you saying?
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #67 on: May 29, 2012, 01:15:03 PM »
once the 410 gets here the 110 is going to be a hangar queen :ahand

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #68 on: May 29, 2012, 01:16:50 PM »
Doesn't the 410 have a worse wing loading than the 110, i.e. it won't turn as well?

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #69 on: May 29, 2012, 01:46:13 PM »
Doesn't the 410 have a worse wing loading than the 110, i.e. it won't turn as well?

Yep, the difference is quite clear. AFAIK the airfoils between the 110 and 410 quite similar and both have slats and slotted flaps.


(Me410 will most likely be faster on the deck than my table lists, probably somewhere around 330-340mph)
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #70 on: May 29, 2012, 01:49:59 PM »
So whens it going to be in game? 2 weeks?  :lol
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #71 on: May 29, 2012, 01:51:24 PM »
If perking a ride was based purely on speed, the P-47-M (fastest American ride to see combat) would be perked. 410 is looking like a fun kill. Simple as avoiding the HO and smack like a little baby. Just like the 110, Mossie, Typh, and so on.  

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #72 on: May 29, 2012, 02:05:25 PM »
We already have rockets that allow you, if employed correctly, to kill buffs from far beyond their effective range of defenses. Its a non-issue because there are only a select few who aren't totally useless with them. The BK50 can probably be put in the same box. If it gets out of control, add perks. No need to punish it beforehand.
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #73 on: May 29, 2012, 02:26:01 PM »
The BK5 will make it the B25H with the manuverability you wish it had, with aproximently the gun.

The more salient question is the two MK103. The same projectile and power of the K4 but at 860m\sec versus 500m\sec. You now have the equivalent balistics of the Mossi6's hissos but, each projectile has the HE power of the Stielhandgranate 24 stick grenade. Your accuracy is in the NS-37 realm x2. Kind of like a flying 2 gun manuverable Ostwind with Hail Mary power out to 800 or 1000 against runners with a good gunsight.

Thats a bit of mischief if you plan it right in missions, or know your way around flying 110 light in furballs, or want something really irritating to HO with as part of a hoard of newbies. It might make CHog status for all the rest of those average type players against each other. It's not what happens after the shine wares off on a new toy. It's the new toy WoW energy put into trying it out before the blush wears off. That's going to be alot of WoW every time one or both of those 860m\sec M-Geschoss ruins someones best evasive manuvering or running by accident.

Might keep average players HOing longer than you think before the hanger gets it's new queen.

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #74 on: May 29, 2012, 02:28:20 PM »
thats the most modern looking cockpit in a WW2 bird ive seen.