he-177 a-5 german bomber

[alpini13]

i wish the he-177 a-5  german bomber was available in this game that has been around for 13 years and is fun to play....as per skuzzys request,lol....a late war german bomber would be soo nice to have....instead of the slow ju-88.   the he 177 a-5 was faster than b-24,carried more boms than the b-24,b-17 and lancs,and had equal or better defensive gunns...although NOT as good as the b-29...........a new german bomber from mid and late war period would be nice

[Butcher]

Shouldn't you be on warcraft leveling your paladin?

[Karnak]

Shouldn't you be on warcraft leveling your paladin?

That is not called for.  He is Italian, so he has a valid excuse for poor English.

[Butcher]

That is not called for.  He is Italian, so he has a valid excuse for poor English.

Check the other threads, I see a pattern following.

[Ack-Ack]

If people cry and whine about players using a Lancaster as a dive bomber are going to have a stroke if this bomber makes it to the game. 

ack-ack

[RedBull1]

I wouldn't mind some new german bombers that can do more than give cons target practice...

+1 imo

[Ack-Ack]

I wouldn't mind some new german bombers that can do more than give cons target practice...

+1 imo

It's defensive strengths weren't its defensive guns but rather the tactics that were employed by its crews like using shallow dive bomb techniques to keep their speed up as they egress out of the target area.

ack-ack

[RedBull1]

It's defensive strengths weren't its defensive guns but rather the tactics that were employed by its crews like using shallow dive bomb techniques to keep their speed up as they egress out of the target area.

ack-ack

oh...nvm 

[Mitsu]

I would like to see Me410 and He-177 in Aces High!

[Dover]

this would be a great bomber has 17mm and 20 mm cannon mounted pretty much in every direction
1 × 7.92 mm MG 81 machine gun in "fishbowl" nose glazing
1 × 20 mm MG 151 cannon in forward ventral Bola gondola position
1 × 13 mm MG 131 machine gun in rear ventral Bola gondola position
2 × 13 mm MG 131 machine guns in FDL 131Z remotely operated forward dorsal turret, full 360° traverse
1 × 13 mm MG 131 machine gun in manned Hydraulische Drehlafette DL 131I aft dorsal turret
1 × 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon in tail position

the load out is just awesome

Up to 6,000 kg (13,227 lb) of ordnance internally/7,200 kg (15,873 lb) externally
has a ton of options including 2 × LT 50 torpedoes under the wing

yeah pretty much its a lancaster with poorer flight characteristics and a better defensive armament

[olds442]

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[Tank-Ace]

It's defensive strengths weren't its defensive guns but rather the tactics that were employed by its crews like using shallow dive bomb techniques to keep their speed up as they egress out of the target area.

Come on AKAK, thats not entirely fair. Yes, they did essentially make a shallow dive all the way through the bomb drop and egress back to friendly air space, but its not like its guns wouldn't be effective.

Based purely on guns, I'd rank it above the B-26, and almost on par with the B-17.

[Ack-Ack]

Come on AKAK, thats not entirely fair. Yes, they did essentially make a shallow dive all the way through the bomb drop and egress back to friendly air space, but its not like its guns wouldn't be effective.

Just because it had a lot of guns doesn't make them effective as a defensive measure.  Could the He-177 defend itself?  Yes it could.  Could it defend itself very well?  Not really.  That's why the shallow dive bomb approach was the most widely used tactic by He-177 crews by using the constant height and speed changes to make interception difficult.  On the Eastern Front, the He-177 bombed at altitudes between 19,000ft and 23,000ft where Soviet fighters didn't operate very well and as a result the He-177 was relatively safe from interception except by the occasional individual interceptor that pressed home his attacks.


ack-ack

[Tank-Ace]

Even if it can't defend itself 'well', its guns are still a viable defense against attacking fighters. Again, I'd rank it above the B-26, and almost on par with the B-17.

The B-17's nose guns rarely get much use, and the main area where the He-177 is beaten by the B-17 is in the lack of a ball gunner possition.

[Dover]

Even if it can't defend itself 'well', its guns are still a viable defense against attacking fighters. Again, I'd rank it above the B-26, and almost on par with the B-17.

The B-17's nose guns rarely get much use, and the main area where the He-177 is beaten by the B-17 is in the lack of a ball gunner possition.

the ventral gun wouild make up for this a little and as most attacks are still from behind and low or behind and high it would  be a good defensive and cause they are 20 mm cannons it would really be effective i think