a different ENY horse to beat

[Butcher]

I don't want to see people be restricted from flying what they they want.

BUT... ....Rank is a funny thing because it is NOT ENY corrected.  So if player H---i flies 95% of his sorties in Tempest and racks up impressive stats, he wins over player D-----m who had a vertually identical score but did it a P-38J.

It would be interesting to see what would happen to ranks, if such a thing were implemented.  

Would rank have a significant meaning in such a system?

Not entirely, one tour I flew a P38J and C.205 and ranked #1 in fighters vs 4 people that were all in tempest's and perk planes, reason I won is because of sorties flown and kill points - if they'd bother to get into actual fights and not worry about dying, they probably would of beaten me.

[Debrody]

Vinky,
just a spark of an idea... been thinking on a system where you have an "eny bank", the average eny of the planes you fly should remain above a number, lets say, 12. If you want to fly 262s and tempests, you have to do some sorties in a lesser eny ride. It would filter out the score tards for sure while still giving them the ability to bust the 50 plane missions in jets when its needed. Also would give a meaning to the less popular rides.
In the other hand, it would limit your plane choice what is against the freedom, but heck, we got a really awesome 12 hours rule too, so where is the freedom, damn it.

[Vinkman]

Not entirely, one tour I flew a P38J and C.205 and ranked #1 in fighters vs 4 people that were all in tempest's and perk planes, reason I won is because of sorties flown and kill points - if they'd bother to get into actual fights and not worry about dying, they probably would of beaten me.

you are right Butcher I think Rank is more about how you play, then what you fly or how "skilled a dog fighter"  you are.

And before I restricted access to planes for high ranking pilots, I'd like to see the Scoring system adjusted per ENY.

[Vinkman]

Vinky,
just a spark of an idea... been thinking on a system where you have an "eny bank", the average eny of the planes you fly should remain above a number, lets say, 12. If you want to fly 262s and tempests, you have to do some sorties in a lesser eny ride. It would filter out the score tards for sure while still giving them the ability to bust the 50 plane missions in jets when its needed. Also would give a meaning to the less popular rides.
In the other hand, it would limit your plane choice what is against the freedom, but heck, we got a really awesome 12 hours rule too, so where is the freedom, damn it.

I think the perk system does that. It's very hard to earn Perks in a perk plane. to fly a 262, you have to kill a bunch of people in a plane with 20 or higher ENY score. I think mathimatically, it works out exactly what you said. 

[Butcher]

People pay $15 to do whatever they want to do, if you want to sit in a pony all tour then so be it - I don't care unless someone shoots their mouth off when in fact they run from any given fight if they have a disadvantage.

It's one thing to run while in a P40C to regain some alt, or get away from a horde, but doing it in a P51D is totally unacceptable to me.

Why? One prefers a fight, the other runs, then again people are spending $15 and not learning anything, just watch the countless dora's and 51s try to ho and run.


I can't say I could train anyone any better, I do try to give my best advice and help others learn, but frankly I see VERY few that actually go in the training arena and get any help, probably because they feel more comfortable sitting at 15k and boom and zooming.

I think there is a rational fear of dying which is the main problem, not sure why - I went through the same gig when I first started playing - then you slowly realize its boring... in my case I simply got tired of not fighting - I tried doing the DA, problem is its not comparable to the MA.

I wish one day someone would say "Hey! Can you show me some tips in the C.205 or such?"

[Vinkman]

Come to think of it, I would replace Hit% in the Ranking system with PERK EARNED.

Hit% is big descriminator, but seems a bit useless as a descriminator. If you a better shot thatn everyone else, the other stats will simply go up accordingly. In that way it's redundant. But PERK EARNED would be a measure of how many of the those points, and kill ratio, etc...were earned in lesser palnes than the people you shot down.

Hmmm I like that. Over to the Wish list....

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People pay $15 to do whatever they want to do, if you want to sit in a pony all tour then so be it - I don't care unless someone shoots their mouth off when in fact they run from any given fight if they have a disadvantage.

It's one thing to run while in a P40C to regain some alt, or get away from a horde, but doing it in a P51D is totally unacceptable to me.

Why? One prefers a fight, the other runs, then again people are spending $15 and not learning anything, just watch the countless dora's and 51s try to ho and run.


I can't say I could train anyone any better, I do try to give my best advice and help others learn, but frankly I see VERY few that actually go in the training arena and get any help, probably because they feel more comfortable sitting at 15k and boom and zooming.

I think there is a rational fear of dying which is the main problem, not sure why - I went through the same gig when I first started playing - then you slowly realize its boring... in my case I simply got tired of not fighting - I tried doing the DA, problem is its not comparable to the MA.

I wish one day someone would say "Hey! Can you show me some tips in the C.205 or such?"

never did that here...from day one I attacked the biggest red dar I could find.....funny the guy that let me play on his system for the first time...says to me while I am fighting...."you cant do that"  

 it was all about saddling someone....now I go more for angles and utilize my E to the fullest possible...

as far as the 205 goes....

all ACM is the same, does not matter what plane you are in, minor differences in what can be done...or WHEN something should be done....timing is I feel one of the most important factors second only to AIM and equal to SA...

the same maneuvers you do in a 190/spit you do in a 205 it truly is just when and where they are done that is different.

drain the wing tanks in the 205 first....rolls better.

all this talk of flying makes me wanna up my KI

[Pand]

you were a marine...haha you people who bring real life into a GAME make me laugh my arse off...when you get called out for lame game play you come up with any excuse to make yourself feel better....leave no one behind...you are pathetic...you are a disgrace to the core....Marines are supposedly about Honor you dishonor all who have died when you act like this game is the real world and must save your buddy

how honorable is it to attack 1 guy with 6 or more????? please explain that to me mr marine....

you say he is a better fighter then I...I say he wouldn't win one real fight against me without the help of all his friends...hell we don't need to go to the DA we can do it right in the MA...call off his squadron of helpers and put up or shut up...

he wont last 3 minutes....show me some HONOR mr "marine".... step up to the plate....get some frog legs and leap....

or be a typical wannabe and just hide behind your delusional thoughts 

I truly can't believe what some people post here.  The total lack of respect for a veteran, and using this as a negative is embarrassing to our community.  Obviously the moderators are too busy to police this thread, so I offer up an option.  

1.  Print out this thread, and read it to your children tonight for their bedtime story.  Be sure and highlight "daddy's" responses.  

Or for a less dramatic effect, just think about the following questions:
1.  Is this a thread you would be proud to show your children?  
2.  Is this the example you wish to set for them on how they should handle themselves?

While I'm confident of the continued sarcastic responses, everyone should try to remember their age, and just because we're shielded by the internet doesn't mean we should act like a teenager with no care for anyone but ourselves.  

If everyone brought a little real-life respect into this game, I feel it would better for everyone.

[Butcher]

all this talk of flying makes me wanna up my KI

Thanks to your skin, Ki-84 has been my main ride ever since, I just gotta stop taking 100% fuel, although it does fly wonders if you burn off wing tanks first - gives amazing loiter time looking for bomb****s or run51s.

[Debrody]

I wish one day someone would say "Hey! Can you show me some tips in the C.205 or such?"

Even tho i could list like 20 people who could kill me 10/10 in the g6, some asked me for 109 tips. Some of them are known, respected pilots, i wont throw out names here. By the time i come back, they will be fluffin badarse beasts in any plane, im telling you... not couse of my advice, im not good and and even worse as a teacher... couse of the willing they showed towards the improving. Guess how it felt seeing them getting better on each flight.

Btw Vinky, thats a good idea and it might worth a posting on the wishlist.

Pand: take your chill pills "in", you call Ink yet you seem to be agressive.

[Pand]

Pand: take your chill pills "in", you call Ink yet you seem to be agressive.

Nope, just disappointed.

[ink]

I truly can't believe what some people post here.  The total lack of respect for a veteran, and using this as a negative is embarrassing to our community.  Obviously the moderators are too busy to police this thread, so I offer up an option.  

1.  Print out this thread, and read it to your children tonight for their bedtime story.  Be sure and highlight "daddy's" responses.  

Or for a less dramatic effect, just think about the following questions:
1.  Is this a thread you would be proud to show your children?  
2.  Is this the example you wish to set for them on how they should handle themselves?

While I'm confident of the continued sarcastic responses, everyone should try to remember their age, and just because we're shielded by the internet doesn't mean we should act like a teenager with no care for anyone but ourselves.  

If everyone brought a little real-life respect into this game, I feel it would better for everyone.

 

maybe you should look in the mirror

I teach my kids first and foremost TRUTH second RESPECT and thirdly HONOR

if you take offense at what I said....when I did not insult you as a person but spoke the straight up truth about your lame game play....YOU are the one with the issues.

because you or he is a "vet" you should be respected even though you show NO respect or HONOR what so ever...please....

he talks about being a marine and having those values of "leaving no one behind" in a GAME when your GAME play is anything but Honorable. that to me is pathetic and dishonors those that died as as Veterans...and is as bogus a reason for cheap game play there is

I asked him...I will ask you...where is the HONOR/RESPECT in attacking one con with your whole squad...please explain that to me....

so ya now that you are here I hereby challenge YOU to the DA/MA in a 1vs1 fight your plane against my plane best of ten.....personally I don't think you will win one....actually I don't even think you will take me up on the offer because you have NO CLUE what HONOR/RESPECT is and are far too worried about your cartoon life to actually fight....without your squad backing you up.

[ink]

Thanks to your skin, Ki-84 has been my main ride ever since, I just gotta stop taking 100% fuel, although it does fly wonders if you burn off wing tanks first - gives amazing loiter time looking for bomb****s or run51s.

thank ya man..take 50% and drops  leave the drops on for anything like 190..p51's P47's ECT ECT..(unless they show aptitude) .get rid of them for anything else, she will still give ya plenty of time to fly around loitering 

[Karnak]

ink,

How did you decide to pick up the Ki-84?  The usual progression from somebody liking a Hurricane, but wanting more speed would be a Spitfire of some kind.  The Ki-84 is relatively obscure.

[ink]

ink,

How did you decide to pick up the Ki-84?  The usual progression from somebody liking a Hurricane, but wanting more speed would be a Spitfire of some kind.  The Ki-84 is relatively obscure.

   I actually started with the zero and moved to the N1k then the hurri from there, while trying all the planes in the Hanger, but the Hurri was great for fighting a couple guys, due to its punching power and being a bit tougher then the zero's and turning ability close to the zero's (with my horrible aim those 4 20's was a huge help)...I flew the Hurri for 4 years and got well over 7000 kills in it all while flying solo against the hoard (for the most part) but I always got pissed when they ran so wanted something a bit faster,

by this time I had tried every fighter in the hanger, flew the LA7 for a bit and the spits but they are a bit too easy and I honestly felt like I was cheating.... they were to easy to fly...I remember one of the first times in the KI  I was fighting a 38 (don't remember who) he tried to take it in a zoom climb and the KI stayed with him all the way up...I don't think he realized I was already at 400+ I caught him and blasted him out of the sky......something the Hurri would not have been able to do...I like how fast the cannons fire...I love how it has viscous reversals (had a nme tell me that about my KI ) it really does have insane reversal ability a snap stall reversal that has pissed off many a spit drivers....  and just enough speed to keep it competitive to chase someone down long enough to get a couple of those fast firing 20's into them...been a love affair ever since.....if we ever get the 4 20mm ohhhh I wont ever fly anything else