Panzer III please

[Butcher]

bet ya you give me a 50mm Pnzr III and ill give you kills butcher

other than that i'd love the Crusader and Cromwell tanks. Churchill in AH is near useless unless you're sticking the Petard on there. KV-1=yes IS-1=why?...

Armored cars such as the 234 and 222 would have their place also in game. very limited, but they'd have a place

The Puma would be awesome to add, same gun as the Panzer III, while doing 40+ mph.

[tunnelrat]

The Puma would be awesome to add, same gun as the Panzer III, while doing 40+ mph.

Of course, going faster on the ground... unless you have a supply chain dedicated to getting you back upright... =

[321BAR]

The Puma would be awesome to add, same gun as the Panzer III, while doing 40+ mph.

yeah butcher what reason behind the IS-1 though?

[Guppy35]

bet ya you give me a 50mm Pnzr III and ill give you kills butcher

other than that i'd love the Crusader and Cromwell tanks. Churchill in AH is near useless unless you're sticking the Petard on there. KV-1=yes IS-1=why?...

Armored cars such as the 234 and 222 would have their place also in game. very limited, but they'd have a place

Must....resist....comment.... .must......resist........

[Butcher]

yeah butcher what reason behind the IS-1 though?

My logic is a balancing act for FSO and scenarios not so much the main arena. Any scenario past 1943 automatically gets Panther/Tiger, while allies get the heavy hitting T34/85. Throw a Su-100, IS-1 in that list and you have some competition. Look at the allied AAA vehicle setup,
I was a bit surprised going out looking for a decent allied AAA vehicle to find none! Even the Germans placed little interest in them until late in the war, only version I wouldn't mind seeing from the axis is the halftrack version with quad or single 20mm.

[tunnelrat]

My logic is a balancing act for FSO and scenarios not so much the main arena. Any scenario past 1943 automatically gets Panther/Tiger, while allies get the heavy hitting T34/85. Throw a Su-100, IS-1 in that list and you have some competition. Look at the allied AAA vehicle setup,
I was a bit surprised going out looking for a decent allied AAA vehicle to find none! Even the Germans placed little interest in them until late in the war, only version I wouldn't mind seeing from the axis is the halftrack version with quad or single 20mm.

The SU-85 would be a welcome addition as well!

And for the AAA vehicle, Butcher: Check out the Crusader AA tanks... there were 40mm and 20mm versions, and they did see service although it was limited due to Allied air superiority.
 

[Tank-Ace]

I really don't see how the IS-1 would give much balance, or have much use, since only a regiment saw service during the later part of Kursk.

[Butcher]

I really don't see how the IS-1 would give much balance, or have much use, since only a regiment saw service during the later part of Kursk.

Isn't a regiment more then enough to fill combat strength? I have plenty of accounts of Panthers/Tigers facing IS-1 and IS-2s in combat - one of the most notable engagements was an IS-1 took on 6 Panthers and got tracked early in Kursk, however it disabled/destroyed 5 panthers and  one bailed out.
However it took a direct hit from the remaining Panther and caught fire, killing all the crew members.

[Tank-Ace]

Yeah, but thats litterally like saying we need the M4A3E2 because it was a more heavily armored M4, and that it would help balance the advantage the Axis have in ground campaigns.


Yes, it saw combat. Is it really represenative? No. Will it be able to stand up to Tiger I's and Panther's in AH2-combat? No. Will it help balance things out? Probably not.

[Butcher]

Yeah, but thats litterally like saying we need the M4A3E2 because it was a more heavily armored M4, and that it would help balance the advantage the Axis have in ground campaigns.


Yes, it saw combat. Is it really represenative? No. Will it be able to stand up to Tiger I's and Panther's in AH2-combat? No. Will it help balance things out? Probably not.

Can't argue with a guy that never had 1,000 kills in a ground vehicle in aces high in one tour.

[Tank-Ace]

So I'm not qualified to give imput because I didn't dedicate a tour to spawn camping?


Right..... cause the other 6 years are completely irrelevent.

[Lusche]

Can't argue with a guy that never had 1,000 kills in a ground vehicle in aces high in one tour.

 

[Noir]

Can't argue with a guy that never had 1,000 kills in a ground vehicle in aces high in one tour.

brilliant  You oscillate between false modesty and 'shut up I'm better' posts

[Denniss]

IS-1 at Kursk ?!?
That's a October/November 1943 vehicle so how was this possible?

[tunnelrat]

IS-1 at Kursk ?!?
That's a October/November 1943 vehicle so how was this possible?

I can't find any mention of IS-1's at Kursk.

Mostly T-34s and T-70s.

There were SU-122's, however, and some Churchills, KV-1s, and SU-76s.  I've read some mention of SU-152s, but only a few participated.