What a bunch of crap!!!

[Lusche]

I didn't know only the top 10% had the common snece to up from a base one or more sectors away from "the" fight and climb so to be 3k above the highest enemy con when you arrive.

It's more than just that. Getting kills is not that simple, after all you still have to shoot the enmy down, and getting back home to keep the (majority of) perks. And then it's not that it's only 51's and La's around, you can't really be a choser in a slow plane like the Brewster. The average 'victim ENY' is more like 10-15.

On this board the "average" player's skill is very much overrated. The average player is happy if he get's one kill at all, and harldy ever lands that.



To put things into perspective a little:

In tour 148, less then 30% of all fighter sorties were landed. The average player had less than 0.5 kills per sortie, his kills/hour were 2.7 and his hit% 3.6. And this in all kind of fighters, including all the late war monsters like P-51D, La, Spit 16. Having "only" one kill per sortie almost puts you in the top 10% of all players!
Now put Mr Average in a Beewster and tell him to rack up 50-100 Pony and Spit 16 kills in a few hours...

[caldera]

Hi, who are you, and when was your account last active? 

My account has been active for years.  What does that have to do with anything? 
My name is displayed in the sig line like yours is.  Can't wait to see you rack up 400 B-239 kills, btw!   

Where Butcher said that you have to tag team to kill spixteens?
Also... if you dont want to tag team or rope-a-dope, you will get far above average level very soon, ergo it wont be as hard to get a spixteen in a G6 or F4.  Your reasoning is nonsense, Sir.
Even further... if it would be as easy to get a 262... imagine, lets say, vBAMBAM flying nothing but jets... Priceless.

He did offer to wing up, did he not?  As far as I know, wingmen protect each other a.k.a. tag-team.

[Debrody]

He did offer to wing up, did he not?  As far as I know, wingmen protect each other a.k.a. tag-team.

Winging is not necesserily tag teaming, at least in my dictionary. I used to let my wingmen play their 1v1 just like they were letting me play with my opponents. 1v1s happened quite rarely in the MA, we tryed to grab the opportunities to have one. Of course, we jumped in when there were more cons trying to gang a squaddie. Maybe im just a "poor wingman", but thats an other tale.
Btw. Butcher was just giving you a friendly offer, was it something wrong with it?

[Babalonian]

OK, that I agree, the Brewster lacks the ability (when also lacking altitude to dive away) to disengage from a fight and run or make it back to home without any objection from determined would-be persuers. 

But still, this is the LWMA we're talking about.  Half the time the horde is litteraly ontop of a field, half of those times it's your own field (or you're within range of running to for safety and likely landing if need be).

Haven't seen you ingame in a while snuggie.  400?

[caldera]

Winging is not necesserily tag teaming, at least in my dictionary. I used to let my wingmen play their 1v1 just like they were letting me play with my opponents. 1v1s happened quite rarely in the MA, we tryed to grab the opportunities to have one. Of course, we jumped in when there were more cons trying to gang a squaddie. Maybe im just a "poor wingman", but thats an other tale.
Btw. Butcher was just giving you a friendly offer, was it something wrong with it?

No, there was nothing wrong with it.  Sand in my vag today.  I apologize Butcher. 

Haven't seen you ingame in a while snuggie.  400?

Have you looked in any smoldering craters? 

[Butcher]

So I have to tag-team rope-a-dope with a wingman to rack up perks?  Not interested, thank you.  Already have an abundance of perks (without ever needing a wingman to hold my hand) but my point was that most people can't rack up 200 perks in something like a 109G6 or Yak-9T in a few hours.  To beat late war rides with such ease requires better than average skill, which of course most people don't have.

Actually I made 10k in perks without a wingman and in 109g6's and other late war birds. Average skill is all you need as I am nothing more then average.

[jimson]

If you were ejected, you wouldn't have gotten a notice like this "Changing your session from TCP to UDP"

You would have gotten a notice saying you were ejected.

Your internet hiccupped, that's all.

[Nathan60]

Now I know who to blame when  alt tab out  to look at girlie pictures when I'm climbing/

[Lusche]

Actually I made 10k in perks without a wingman and in 109g6's and other late war birds. Average skill is all you need as I am nothing more then average.

lol.. odd definition of average

You may not see yourself like that, but you are way above average. Just look at the numbers I posted above.

[Butcher]

lol.. odd definition of average

You may not see yourself like that, but you are way above average. Just look at the numbers I posted above.

It does take ACM knowledge, and some experience, but anyone can be capable of learning and building perks and eventually farming.
Some great planes to perk farm are Mossy, C.205, 109G6.

Problem is people actually have to LEARN to get better then flying P51's into static targets.

[Lusche]

It does take ACM knowledge, and some experience, but anyone can be capable of learning and building perks and eventually farming.
Some great planes to perk farm are Mossy, C.205, 109G6.

Problem is people actually have to LEARN to get better then flying P51's into static targets.

The one who still has to learn it, is not there yet. And we are not talking about a player's future potential, we are talkign about the arena and it's players as is. "He could be good one day" isn't the same as "he is good".
And as said before, the average player, at any given time in the history of AH is and was happy if he's about to break the 1 kill/sortie barrier.

There's a perception problem resulting from the fact that we almost always are looking at the very extreme top players only (no matter hwo you define that), talk about multi kill sorties, watch awesome AH mvies of 1 vs the horde, see the "XX has landed 3 kills" messages in game.
But all these things are the great exceptions, balanced by hundreds of meagre one or none kill sorties that never rtb at all.

So no, the average player can't get 200 perks in just a few hours. And I'm not entirely convinced all of them could be taught to get that good at all.

[Butcher]

And I'm not entirely convinced all of them could be taught to get that good at all.

Let me rephrase my comment then - Not everyone can be an "Ace" and land 5 kills per sortie or make few hundred perks a day, again however with ACM practice and some time in game a person CAN farm perks.

Doesn't matter if you make 5 an hour or 50 an hour its still perks. I'm convinced an average player can because I have trained my share that can fly quite well.

[kvuo75]

No you think that, and I know that when that happens your film is in the film folder with the most recent file name/date stamp.  


Nice super paranoid, conspiracy theory whine post over a disco though!

^^ this


OP, if you were running film, the film was saved automagically when you got disco'd.

so go look at it.

[Lusche]

Let me rephrase my comment then - Not everyone can be an "Ace" and land 5 kills per sortie or make few hundred perks a day, again however with ACM practice and some time in game a person CAN farm perks.

Doesn't matter if you make 5 an hour or 50 an hour its still perks. I'm convinced an average player can because I have trained my share that can fly quite well.

Everybody can 'farm' perks, but not at the rate that was claimed, i.e. 200 in 'a few hours'. Someone who is able to do so has long left the "average" status.
Same goes for someone attaining a K/D of 7+ in fighter mode like you have. He may claim being "average", but in fact he has left the average status long time ago. The true "average player" can only dream of such a feat, even when he's really trying for it.
I can only rehash: The skill level of Mr Average is greatly overrated. Many of us here on the board have forgotten what it really means to be average, in fact quite a few have never been.

FYI

[Flench]

people that cry like little , oh wait that thread just got locked , lol
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