fighter training help and advice

[yb3]

Giday.
Not sure if this topic is in the right section or not but i am wondering and would appreciate some fighter training , advice or help. I fly the Niki , 109 and spit 16 all guns ranged at 375

A few things need help with.
lining up the shot and getting hits on target , tend to be all over the place at times.
Picking lines to attack from.
Also getting cons of my 6 a major issue.

Thank you for your time.
Regards Anthony

[Klam]

Welcome to Aces High.

This is definitely the right place to ask for help.

Lining up a shot asks a few questions.  For instance, the distance to target, the flight path and speed of target and the lead you must give to land shots. 

There is a handy training aid (can't remember the name) you can use offline and in the TA, which will place a green cross where you need to aim
for hits to be successful.  Use it for a while, it will help, then turn it off.  Try and think where the green cross would be.  Repeat the on/off practice until you get a good idea of where you should aim.  It takes awhile to get a "sight picture" but keep practicing.

Lines of attack also asks questions.  In 1v1 it is important to create angles.  Head on is 0 angle.  Avoid this.
Try and create some separation before the merge, either horizontally or vertically...combine both if you can.
I try and think of how much room I need to turn and be on the 6 of the target.  Head on gives me no room and worse, I am in the targets guns.
The room you need will depend on your speed and the speed/direction of the target.   More questions arise because pulling G's in a turn will bleed energy, maybe so much so that you find that you can't keep pace with the target.  There are ways to conserve energy in an attack.  If co'alt/speed try and experiment with low and high yoyo's but be sure to have some separation first.  Try and think in 3D
You will get shot down in thousands but don't let it get to you.  Keep flying and asking, reading.  Have fun!

Getting cons off your 6 is really to do with where you put your plane.  Your SA will build over time and will tell you who's a threat and who's not.......yet!   Get to know your plane, chuck it about all and everyway, dive till it compresses, practice recovery/pull out and then fly it slow and make it stall.  Stalling and recovery are essential tools.  Do not fly straight, use barrel rolls, scissors and snap roll to change direction.
Estimating your opponents energy is a key aspect of staying offensive.  Learn about creating an overshoot for him and avoiding one yourself.

There are many more experienced and better players who will add to this I'm sure.


Have fun and happy hunting

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[FLS]

Yb3 is you post the times you're available there is likely a trainer that can help you. I'm usually in the training arena Saturday mornings 10 - 12 ET, let me know if you want to schedule some training at that time.

[Owlblink]

 

Try checking out the training section linked on the main hitechcreations website for aces high; some of the information is dated but most of it is sill and will always be relevant.

Work on your situational awareness for trying to keep people from sadaling up on your six or from getting a great angle on you when you dont *want* them to (as you will learn, sometimes you do want to give the enemy an angle just long enough to reverse them).

This is a link to a resent discussion on rolling siccors, a core ACM for keeping the boggie off your six when properly timed. Notice Badboys diagram, that's information worth countless sourties:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,334321.0.html

Also, Agent360's films are amazing for looking into more advanced ACM moves that you will eventualy need to learn or will discover yourself when throwing your plane around to its limits enough times. These films work with the aces high film viewer, and though they are mostly used for 109pilots, the principals still work in many planes. The best part is the narrated films, of which he does an outstanding job!

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,261486.0.html

Dont be afraid to get shot down, it's just a cartoon pilot and you'll only learn by getting into fights, not running from them. With that said, you will also learn when the odds are too against you that you'll need some seperation from too many boggies to "safely" ingage the enemy. Others will likely add their advise on this

P.S. I hope this post makes some coherant sense, I'm trying to type this up on my iphone.

[JimmyD3]

There is a handy training aid (can't remember the name) you can use offline and in the TA, which will place a green cross where you need to aim
for hits to be successful.  Use it for a while, it will help, then turn it off.  Try and think where the green cross would be.  Repeat the on/off practice until you get a good idea of where you should aim.  It takes awhile to get a "sight picture" but keep practicing.

Ok Klam, what is the dot command for the green cross? Newbies want to know.

[morfiend]

  The lead calculating gunsight is enabled by pressing ctrl and tab,this enables friendly lock,then press tab when you have your target inview and the crosshairs will appear!

  In offline mode goto arena settings,find flightmode flags and select change,the check the box that says lead calc gunsite and follow the commands above.


  hope this helps!



   

[JimmyD3]

  The lead calculating gunsight is enabled by pressing ctrl and tab,this enables friendly lock,then press tab when you have your target inview and the crosshairs will appear!

  In offline mode goto arena settings,find flightmode flags and select change,the check the box that says lead calc gunsite and follow the commands above.


  hope this helps!



   

Thank you morfiend, very much!

[Klam]

  The lead calculating gunsight

That's it.  Thanks morf' I had forgot the name.

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[Latrobe]

Best advice I got on gunnery was this. (This was a good way that helped me get better at gunnery)

Target is 200 away, lead them by 1 plane length.
Target is 400 away, lead them by 2 plane length.
600 = 3 plane length and anything beyond that you'll be wasting ammo.

The icons never tell you when they're 100, 300, or 500 away which all add another half a plane length to lead, but over time you should be able to tell just how far away they are even without icons.

Of course this only works some of the time, your angle of attack and speed can change everything. If you're closing on your opponent with more speed then you don't need to lead as much since it will take your bullets less time to reach them. And vice-versa, if you're slower than them you'll have to lead them more.


Eventually, with enough practice, you'll be able to see your opponent and instantly tell how much energy he has, where his flight path is taking him, and how much lead you will need. You'll subconsciously be picking a specific part of the sky in front of them and, like magic, your rounds will be landing hits on them.

[FLS]

Of course this only works some of the time, your angle of attack and speed can change everything.

The term "angle of attack", when used in reference to flying, properly refers to the angle that the moving wing meets the air. It can be confusing when you use it to mean something else. In this case you probably want to use the term "aspect angle" which refers to the angle between your flight path and your target's flight path.

Many things, including your own maneuvering, affect how much you need to lead the target on their predicted flight path which is why the lead computing sight Klam mentioned is such a useful training aid.

[yb3]

First I would like to thank every1 for taking the time to reply to my topic appreciated 

Klam. (1st reply)
I have been a member for a few months now manly spending most my time in a GV  but GV`ing is only one very small part of the game. In regards to the green cross yes i have come across that in the TA and used it before in lining up on practice bombing runs and mock GV trading at the point i need to drop at for a successful kill also when firing rockets etc and been helpful.

Yes that would be one of my many issues con on my 6 in one on one fight been able to reverse situation and thank you for providing information on this (quote) chuck it about all and everyway, dive till it compresses, practice recovery/pull out and then fly it slow and make it stall.  Stalling and recovery are essential tools.  Do not fly straight, use barrel rolls, scissors and snap roll to change direction. (unquote)

FLS (2nd reply)
My time zone is (Brisbane Australia) think it is roughly 16 hours time difference if FSO for example 10pm Fridays it`s 1pm Saturday here I would diffidently be interested in some training (time maybe to early on my end with your times your available) but I am on alot of the time mornings and evenings Australian time.

Owlblink (3rd reply)
Thank you for providing the link and suggesting to watch (Agent360's) i will do so.

Morfiend (4th reply)
Thank you for providing the information I will give this a try.

Latrobe (squad mate)
Thank you for providing the info mate appreciated and noted

Cheers guys
Anthony

[Latrobe]

The term "angle of attack", when used in reference to flying, properly refers to the angle that the moving wing meets the air. It can be confusing when you use it to mean something else. In this case you probably want to use the term "aspect angle" which refers to the angle between your flight path and your target's flight path.

Many things, including your own maneuvering, affect how much you need to lead the target on their predicted flight path which is why the lead computing sight Klam mentioned is such a useful training aid.

Ah, thanks for the correction. I always mix up angle of attack with aspect angle (had just woke up too). What I posted was what worked best for me, it may work for others and it might not. Klam's way is the better way to go. I was just throwing my thoughts out there. It's a good thing (or at least I think so) to have multiple options to choose from. If one way doesn't quite work for you, then try a different approach.

[shiv]

Giday.
A few things need help with.
...
Also getting cons of my 6 a major issue.

For getting cons off 6 look at the barrel roll defense http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,276908.25.html

[Soulyss]

One bit of advice I got years ago is both very simple and I think very valuable.  Rember to breathe, try amd stay calm.  When you get in a new situation, or get excited you tend to tense up and hold your breath.  This in turn leads to a death grip on the stick which leads to over controlling.  Over controlling, ruins aim and bleeds E. 

...why do I feel like I just typed a DirecTV commercial....
 

[morfiend]

 Yb3,

  I've been away from the TA the last few weeks but I hope to be back the next weeks or so.  I'm usually in there around 9pm est which would be 11 am your yime if I have the timezone correct. First I need the lottery numbers,since your the next day....    All kidding aside,if you can make it at that time look for me.  you can use the .F morfiend to see if I'm logged on or not and I'll be glad to help in anyway I can.  If you can make an appointment with FLS you will learn alot so try to do that as well. 

  A couple of different prospective from different trainers can go along way!

   It would help to know your ingame name also.