Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems

[CAP1]

yup been there done that, I have learned being up here in vermont when I replace a line to the rear wheel cyl I just replace every line to the rear, as the get tender around where they sit next to or on the frame.  we replace a front rubber hose on a friends truck, as we were bleeding the driverside rear went, then the main to the rear went. lots of brake lines that day friggin salt

you guys use brine on the roads up there in the winter?

[CAP1]

Good thing it happen on the rack or it would have run him more mony too .
I have had people tell me about the salt doing in lines and so on but we are lucky down here where they just use it a few times a year .
Thanks again men <S>

 it's not so much the salt.......although it's corrosive, it's mostly solid, and doesn't stay.......mostly.

 what's been making the problems around here, is that for nearly 10 years now, the dot's been using brine when there's predictions of snow, or if there's any possibility that the road's gonna freeze. that's basically liquified salt, with some other crap in it. THIS stuff is stupidly corrosive, and since the salt's already liquified, when it gets up under your car, it sticks.
 for about 7 or so years, i've been doing many many more brake lines than i used to do. it's almost predictable where they'll rot through, based on make/model, but no one manufacturer is more or less susceptible to this than the other.

[homersipes]

yeah they "presalt" prior to a storm using something not salt not sure what it is, but in the summer they also use it on dirt roads to keep dust down.  So even in the summer your vehicle is rotting.  its all a conspiracy we pay sales tax when we register our vehicles, which is used to salt the roads, which in 5 years your car is rotten so you have to buy a new car and more sales tax.  yeah its so predictable, gm trucks-rear bumpers(no matter the year) rear main brake line just behind cab, and gas cap covers why I have no idea.  fords the frames rot just behind cab same as gm and toyotas well everything rots on them lol.

[morfiend]

 Corrosion induces an electrical current,salt and water make a good electrolyte and thus increases the rate of corrosion.

   When it's below freezing corrosion is slowed down but the salt/salt brines lower the freezing point and this along with the electrolytic qualities increase the rate of corrosion.

   They've tried many methods to stop this process,in oceanliners they send an electrical current to "jam" the corrosion current and it's somewhat effective,this is used in cars also but it's not very effective because there are too many insulators that stop the current from flowing effectively.

   The best solution is to use an oil type spray and apply it annually,all those wax base and tar base coating do is hide the rust and infact promote it by trapping moisture between the coatings.

  If you live in an area where they salt the roads,the worse thing you can do is store the car inside in a warm area,this just speeds up the process.


  YMMV.


   

[CAP1]

that's why my gt doesn't come out if there's even a hint of snow. or rain.

[morfiend]

that's why my gt doesn't come out if there's even a hint of snow. or rain.

  Ahh but what about condensation?  Ever heat your car on a cool day?

   Water forms against the panels,remember most panels are drip panels and thats why you have drains,so you dont have to drive in rain or snow.Then there's those scenic trips to the ocean,salt air gets trapped in the strangest places!

  Like Neil said "rust never sleeps",unless you live in an extremely dry area you will develope some type of corrosion. It's only natural the steel is trying to turn back to iron oxide like it was before we messed with it.

  If you want your car to last a long time,have it coated with a light oil,preferably designed for the purpose and not just used engine oil,and wash and wax the car on a regular basis. Also dont over look those drains,doors and rockers particulary,clean and make sure they are clear.


  YMMV.


   

[Flench]

CAP , They mite not use salt down here . I know it's got white rock in it and something else but we don't have that corrosion problem . I will have to ask and find out .

[Flench]

Just took the booster off and its rusted out on the bottom side bad .


But I can not tell where the fluid was coming from . Look's clean on the Master cylinder . Well not realy clean but it does not look like it hasbeen leaking .

[icepac]

That master cylinder is done.

I've run into many cars where the rust and other debris gets between the piston and the retaining clip which causes the piston to not retract enough to open a certain port.

[Flench]

That master cylinder is done.

I've run into many cars where the rust and other debris gets between the piston and the retaining clip which causes the piston to not retract enough to open a certain port.

That's what I thought . You know Napa has a $40 dollar core charge on the booser . Now what are the going to do with that old booster ?

[CAP1]

replace em both. the seals in the master are gone. best to not put that booster back in, since there's been brake fluid in there. besides it's already off.

[Flench]

replace em both. the seals in the master are gone. best to not put that booster back in, since there's been brake fluid in there. besides it's already off.

Ok CAP1 , Well do and thanks ..

[Shuffler]

Wow that is a nasty looking booster.

Never skimp on your brakes.

[Flench]

Wow that is a nasty looking booster.

Never skimp on your brakes.

I just got the truck a few years back from a young man going off to war . He had riped out the trans so I had to go in and rebuild it and put a new clutch in it and it has been a good truck up till now . I have put it through the meal though hunting and running dog's out of it . Not counting the hole I shot in the hood shooting a running deer through my scope  and lost the tailgate too , lol .

[Shuffler]

I just got the truck a few years back from a young man going off to war . He had riped out the trans so I had to go in and rebuild it and put a new clutch in it and it has been a good truck up till now . I have put it through the meal though hunting and running dog's out of it . Not counting the hole I shot in the hood shooting a running deer through my scope  and lost the tailgate too , lol .

Ahhh war stories.