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[guncrasher]

Core2Duo E7500 2.93Ghz
4GB RAM
Radeon 5570
Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit

I can run Wings of Prey completely maxes out at 30-40 FPS with no stutter at all even in the largest of missions. Yet I can't run AH maxed out (no bump map terrain, no shadows on others, buildings and self shadows) without poor FPS in 10+ furballs and the ground detail range is set at the halfway mark. Wings of Prey graphics make AH looks like Battlefield 1942 as it is to Battlefield 3.

Face it, the only thing that sets AH from all others flight sim is the fly model and massive arenas with hundreds of players. It fails in comparison to everything else. Graphics, coding (just try to blow up that tree), and size (HTC is puny compared to larger companies, we'd be getting 1 plane every month or two if it was the size of EA, Activision, THQ, Codemasters etc etc etc).

And that's fine with me, I love the accurate flight models (I never flown a plane but I know enough to know that not *every* plane stalls to the left and flat spins like it is in Wings of Prey), and I love the massive arenas. But if a game ever comes out with graphics like WoP and the flight models/arena size of AH, my 15 bucks is going somewhere else.

I joined wop as a tester.  flew about 3 or 4 games and quit.  wop will never, ever come close to being like ah.  first of all you cant even use most of the functions of a joystick.  forget pedals or trakir.  but here's the kicker, wop is not about being accurate, it's about bringing money.  once it gets released as a pay to play it will be just like world of tanks.  In world of tanks when the french tanks came out they dominated the field as it was hard to kill them.  after a month or two they went back to being the normal easy kills they are.  try that in ah when they introduce a new plane and they want people to fly it as it cant get killed.  it wont happen.

I am not a brown noser to ah but when it comes to being less gamey, aces high may not be perfect but it sure as hell beats every other game.  there isnt a game even close to development that will compare to ah.

and just so you know, i have an awesome computer built around a 2500k processor with 16 gigs of ram, sli 465 vc's and all are oc like hell.  and yet I get stutters and mini freezes in both wop and wot.  and yet it plays aces high with everything on at shadows at 4096 without a sweat. 

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[zack1234]

Stable FSP are important not the highest

I have a 6970 and dont have everything maxed out, I like the grass

I know putting game on its own partition with few other programs on it has worked wonders

If i can partition a drive anyone can

[homersipes]

I have a 6 year old laptop and get around 30-40 fps and its not choppy, but if I go to the MA where there are lots of guys I drop to about 10 unless its over water and even at 10 its not choppy, it gets choppy around 7.

[titanic3]

I joined wop as a tester.  flew about 3 or 4 games and quit.  wop will never, ever come close to being like ah.  first of all you cant even use most of the functions of a joystick.  forget pedals or trakir.  but here's the kicker, wop is not about being accurate, it's about bringing money.  once it gets released as a pay to play it will be just like world of tanks.  In world of tanks when the french tanks came out they dominated the field as it was hard to kill them.  after a month or two they went back to being the normal easy kills they are.  try that in ah when they introduce a new plane and they want people to fly it as it cant get killed.  it wont happen.

I am not a brown noser to ah but when it comes to being less gamey, aces high may not be perfect but it sure as hell beats every other game.  there isnt a game even close to development that will compare to ah.

and just so you know, i have an awesome computer built around a 2500k processor with 16 gigs of ram, sli 465 vc's and all are oc like hell.  and yet I get stutters and mini freezes in both wop and wot.  and yet it plays aces high with everything on at shadows at 4096 without a sweat. 

semp

You realize Wings of Prey and World of Planes are two completely different game?

World of Planes is a joke.
Wings of Prey is amazing in almost every aspect except flight modeling and multiplayer. The flight model is mediocre but not like AH. The multiplayer rooms can only hold 16 players.

Yes you can use TrackIR, pedals, and whatever set up in Wings of Prey.

[R 105]

 I have an old small tower Dell 531S that is about 8 years old. I have an old GForce8400 video card and on board sound card. I have all graphics turned off as well as all effects. I also run Game Boost and is about the only reason I can still play and yet my frame rate runs from 18 to 30 unless I am in the tower. I think it causes me to miss many targets because by the time I see it and fire it is in the next county. I am retired so a new computer is not high on our lists of things to buy. As for World of Tanks I tried it and did not care for it it uses a mouse. Aces High is by far the best on line video game I ever saw but that is about four games. Aces High, FlyBoy, WoT and Rise of Flight. I am a guy who as a kid toys were made of sheet steel and you pushed it by hand or it had peddles. A toy with a battery in it was high tech. So to me Aces High is pretty high end. Plus where else you going to have this much fun for $14.95 a month and not leave you house.

[titanic3]

The range at which you can see objects/terrain is the same as AH, if not farther.


You can see water droplets AS you go through clouds. As well as when you fly in a oil trail (obviously, it's oil droplets then).


Flame effects are much better than AH.

And yes, I still believe AH is the better game in terms of gameplay. But almost every other flight sim (including ones from 2000 such as "Jane's WW2 Fighters" or "Il-2 Sturmovik") still looks better than AH. Imagine how popular AH would be if had graphics like this. And WoP is running on the SAME machine as the one I play AH with. I can't max out AH, but I can max out Wings of Prey. That just shows poor coding/optimizing.

[Butcher]

With all the hardwork staff at HTC do, if you think you can make a better flightsim please do, until then enjoy what we have because the community and gameplay is far better then whatever crap is out there.

[titanic3]

I already said AH is my favorite flight sim, I know, and HTC knows, that AH compared to other flight sims in terms of graphics, is terrible. The gameplay and the flight model is the only reason AH is keeping its players. No other flight sims comes close to AH's gameplay,  but AH cannot come close to any other flight sim's graphics.

[Butcher]

I already said AH is my favorite flight sim, I know, and HTC knows, that AH compared to other flight sims in terms of graphics, is terrible. The gameplay and the flight model is the only reason AH is keeping its players. No other flight sims comes close to AH's gameplay,  but AH cannot come close to any other flight sim's graphics.

Problem is other "Flight sims" don't allow hundreds to furball together, IL-2 I think is limited to what 8 players last time I flew it? True the graphics were nice, but the AI is dumber then a box of rocks.

I haven't bothered looking at Cliff of Dover yet, unless someone gives me a damn good reason to look at it, I will shrug it off as another "wantabe" BOB game.

[titanic3]

  Didn't I just say all of that...multiple times?

Problem is other "Flight sims" don't allow hundreds to furball together, IL-2 I think is limited to what 8 players last time I flew it? True the graphics were nice, but the AI is dumber then a box of rocks.

I haven't bothered looking at Cliff of Dover yet, unless someone gives me a damn good reason to look at it, I will shrug it off as another "wantabe" BOB game.

[guncrasher]

Didn't I just say all of that...multiple times?

what I find. funny is that you have an old dated. puter and graphics card. and yet. expect ah to fix the game so you can play with hundreds of players and full eye candy.


semp

[titanic3]

what I find. funny is that you have an old dated. puter and graphics card. and yet. expect ah to fix the game so you can play with hundreds of players and full eye candy.


semp

Yet I can max out Wings of Prey? Duhh....logic...whut...duuuuh hhh



That's my game settings. Completely maxed out, 30-40 FPS in game.

And this is a cockpit of a Spitfire II



Compare that to ours. I can max THAT but I can't max AH?

[guncrasher]

Yet I can max out Wings of Prey? Duhh....logic...whut...duuuuh hhh

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That's my game settings. Completely maxed out, 30-40 FPS in game.

And this is a cockpit of a Spitfire II

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Compare that to ours. I can max THAT but I can't max AH?

when you are having 30 to 40 fps you arent maxing out your settings, you are taxing the hell out of your computer to give you 30-40 fps.  if you were to max out your settings you would be having 59 or 60 fps constantly and not 50 to 60 much less 30 to 40.  you arent even close to maxing out settings in wop.  never played that game but I am pretty sure the max fps isnt 40 and sure as heck isnt variable like 30-40 fps.

I play ah with full settings and shadows at 4096 and it sometimes goes down to 55 fps in heavy ack, that is close to maxing out the settings. if i was to max it out I would have shadows at 8092 or whatever the max is and full frames at 59-60.

It isnt the games that wont let you max out the settings, it's your computer.


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[tunnelrat]

It's too pointless to carry on this discussion... why is it up to HTC to make a game prettier than these barely multiplayer titles out there?  Why not let these multi-million dollar budget firms try to recreate what HTC did over a decade ago in creating a massively multiplayer sea/air/land warfare arena?

There is a reason you are limited to 8 players.