Me410

[titanic3]

So? Thoughts? First impressions? Abnormalities?

Besides the obvious (flying like a brick). Turns like a 190, rolls rather poorly, snap stall pretty easily. Doesn't dive well at all. Has dive flaps to help it somewhat.

My note on it, I was missing my right flap (in the up position) and I decided to drop the other flap. No abnormality that I could feel. It still flew normally, unlike other planes where if you miss a flap and drop the other one, your plane goes bonkers.

[Butcher]

I'm amazed how easily it blows up with few hits, nothing over 50 cal alarms me.

[Krupinski]

Its climb rate isn't that bad below 10k, I haven't flown above that yet.

[titanic3]

I'm amazed how easily it blows up with few hits, nothing over 50 cal alarms me.

Hmm, I had a 410 eat a tater from the K4 I was flying earlier. He ended up with a missing elevator and friendlies had to mop him up.

[Krupinski]

Hmm, I had a 410 eat a tater from the K4 I was flying earlier. He ended up with a missing elevator and friendlies had to mop him up.

You shot off half his horizontal stabilizer I'm sure, the way it's modeled it happens to every plane. A real 30mm would do more damage to the surrounding area.

[RTHolmes]

Me410

easy meat (if you can jink to avoid the HO)

[caldera]

Sluggish in a turn battle but you can make them pay badly on a sloppy overshoot. 

[Lusche]

As expected, but very contrary to what some people were dreaming of: A lousy B-29 interceptor 

[Letalis]

I'd had high hopes for a real "jack of all trades" fighter bomber to give my P-47/F6F/P38/F4U fetish a good break. 

The Negatives:

-Top speed was actually a tad less than expected. For some reason I was expecting it to be modeled 5-10kts faster.
-Acceleration about as expected (decent), perhaps a little worse.
-The 5 notches of flaps don't seem to help poor turn rate/radius much.
-Roll rate was slightly worse than expected.
-Rear gun ineffective, especially against another 410 Unless opponent at dead 6, only one 13mm will pop a shot.
-Toughness may actually be inferior to the 110.
-Poor dive characteristics, treat like a 109 with poorer roll authority.
-Inferior to Mosquito Mk VI as dogfighter to say nothing of most any mid-late war fighter.

The Positives:

-Armament is awesome, lots of ammo, lots of options.  It may not be able to defend itself, but once in target area watch out!
-Climb is decent for a large plane 
-Internal bomb bay is cool, reduces drag.  Bombs on centerline increases accuracy.
-Love the cockpit! The uniqueness is actually my biggest draw right now.
-Good rudder authority.
-Excellent visibility forward for both A-A and A-G work.
-ENY is 15. (Compare to 110G ENY and draw own conclusions)
-Absolutely fantastic range on internal even before addition of drop tanks. 

Summary:
-This bird will find a niche with the A-20/B-25H fans, not a game-changer.
-Likely MORE vulnerable than 110G-2 in LW due to only marginally improved speed/climb combined with poorer roll/turn/toughness.
-Not likely to be a viable air to air threat except in the hands of a superior pilot.
-What matters is that HiTech and Co. took the time to get it right.  If it isn't, I trust they'll fix it. I trust they've done more research than I ever will.
-I'm going to have fun with it.  Thanks HiTech!

[titanic3]

I'd take it over the 110G due to the sheer firepower. I just love landing those MK103s from 600 yards +. Amazing ballistics. I haven't had a chance to test out the BK5 yet. Something tells me pretty much every scenario with the 410 in it means extremely bad news for the Allies. Bring the Wgr 21s, use them during the first pass along with the 20mms. After the initial pass, use the BK5 to kill beyond the bomber's effective range. And of course the 109s/190s can deal with the escorts. So much awesome packed into one plane. 

[Wmaker]

It does 328mph on the deck with WEP and it seems fairly flammable. The handling chracteristics seem to have similar pequliarities as the Mosquito with the old flight model had.

[Gman]

I agree with Butcher.   I found as a target that it took very little in the way of hits to kill.  A great bomber killer it will be!

[icepac]

410 bests 110 until you get above 21,000 feet.

[Letalis]

Upon further review, it appears the damage model has been tweaked.  Now it seems every other plane is catching fire with fewer pings.  I had three kills in a jug with less than 300 rds (of which only a tiny portion hit anything).  A flight in the Corsair got me 7 kills with almost half ammo remaining.  Typically I call it quits around 1/4 ammo remaining and in the F4U that mean 7-8 kills.  Definitely not improvement on my part.  Also, my beloved D-25 seems to have lost a little 2-3 minutes of flight time on 3/4 internal while the F4U seems to have gained a minute on full internal.  More sure about the damage and handling than the fuel, but there have been changes beyond the 410.

[Debrody]

410 bests 110 until you get above 21,000 feet.

By 3mph, my friend? Just take a look on the comprasion page 

Look, lets compare the 410 to the 110G, its predecessor (and they have the same eny rating too)
-Guns: the 410 is a bit better, but if you cant kill something with the 110G's guns, the 410 wont help you either  : ) Basically the same.
-Speed: the 410 is 3-5mph faster up to 20k. Basically the same, even tho there is a small altitude window whan its 10mph faster. I expected about 10-12mph more, according to WMaker's and Moot's research.
-Acceleration: According to Karnak, the 410 is a bit worse than the 110G, there isnt a real difference though.
-Climb rate: basically the same as the 110G, a bit better at certain alts, a bit worse at others, there isnt a real difference.
-Roll rate: about the same, they are wide, twin-engined planes.
-Survivability: glass nose, what do you expect... still, i expected the structure itself to be more massive than the (paper-)110.
-Handling: feels much more detailed and realistic than the 110G. A bit strange at very low speeds but no surprises.
-Turn rate: abslutely horrible. In a sustained turnfight, a 262 can beat this plane (literally, grab a chronometer and test it...) The instanteous isnt as bad, still faaar from the 110's good-medicore performance.
-Stall speed: not as bad, about the same as the 110G.

Summa summarum, its about the same as the 110G in every aspect, except the turn rate, what is terrible at most while the 110 is a decent turnfighter. Yet the eny is the same.
Definiately a challenge to master it... not if the G6 isnt hard enough... still, you know... when the players research gave you a better impression about this plane, you get disappointed.