Me410

[Rich46yo]

I was doing 1,000 yrd 50mm gun tests against targets, with the B-25 sight, and if you tap page up just a bit you can find a sweet spot where the big gun is not only remarkably accurate at this stand off range. But also the rockets are right on when sighting using the lower/double horizontal sights at 1,000 yrds. Or meters, or whatever it is.

I havnt tried it against bombers yet but it may very well be the ultimate standoff weapon against bomber formations. On the other hand Ive hit plenty of airplanes in bomber guns at the same range and with the window cockpit, is the glass hardened?, your going to catch some lead. But if you jink in and out of 1,000 yrd range this plane should be invulnerable as a bomber killer. With its long range perhaps a perfect CV defender.

[Alpo]

I was doing 1,000 yrd 50mm gun tests against targets, with the B-25 sight, and if you tap page up just a bit you can find a sweet spot where the big gun is not only remarkably accurate at this stand off range. But also the rockets are right on when sighting using the lower/double horizontal sights at 1,000 yrds. Or meters, or whatever it is.

I havnt tried it against bombers yet but it may very well be the ultimate standoff weapon against bomber formations. On the other hand Ive hit plenty of airplanes in bomber guns at the same range and with the window cockpit, is the glass hardened?, your going to catch some lead. But if you jink in and out of 1,000 yrd range this plane should be invulnerable as a bomber killer. With its long range perhaps a perfect CV defender.

Tested the 50mm last night offline with .target and was pleasantly surprised at the trajectory at 1500 yards.  Played with various sights, picked one and went the the arena.  Found B26s near a CV and dove in to test.  Unfortunately, the formation was banking slowly so I never did get a long range shot to land.  However, at 600 the first B26 lost a wing and before the pilot could bail, I vaporized the #3 drone.  Died quite easily to an F4u but I expected that.  I can't wait to find some straight and level, unescorted buffs with this thing.

[Tupac]

I like it. I don't know why, but I do. I think I may fly it exclusively for awhile.

[Karnak]

A couple additional numbers added to the table:

Airplane	Fuel	Armament	Sea Level Speed	Acceleration 150 to 200mph	Acceleration 200 to 250mph	Climb at 5000ft	Time for 360 roll at 250
Bf110G-2	50% fuel (34.9 minutes)	Two 20mm MG151/20, two 30mm MK108	MIL: 311 WEP: 322	MIL: 13.56 WEP: 12.03	MIL: 21.03 WEP: 19.00	MIL: 2677 WEP: 3067	Left: 6.50 Right: 6.97
Me410	50% fuel (38.7 minutes)	Two 20mm MG151/20, two 13mm MG131	MIL: 315 WEP: 327	MIL: 14.87 WEP: 12.85	MIL: 22.56 WEP: 19.44	MIL: 2416 WEP: 2807	Left: 6.62 Right: 7.22
Mosquito Mk VI	50% fuel (35.7 minutes)	Four 20mm Hispano Mk II, four .303	MIL: 320 WEP: 357	MIL: 15.19 WEP: 10.62	MIL: 23.40 WEP: 15.15	MIL: 2453 WEP: 3324	Left: 6.22 Right: 6.31
P-38L	75% fuel (27.6 minutes)	One M2 20mm, four M2 50 cal	MIL: 333 WEP: 345	MIL: 11.56 WEP: 10.09	MIL: 17.43 WEP: 14.60	MIL: 3131 WEP: 3640	Left: 5.25 Right: 5.00

[Karnak]

When shooting buildings the MK103 30mm seems to do a bit more damage, 12.99lbs, than the MK108 30mm's 11.71lbs. 

[Tupac]

Best A2A gun pack  IMO is the top one on the right and the Mk103s. It'll tear ANYTHING up.

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

The thing about the 30mm vs. the 20mm packages in the 410 & 110 is the fact the ballistics all match, when it comes to the 410's durability you can find pictures of crashed 210s and 410's with little to no major damage, most look like they were even able to crash land and the pilots survived. (the few pictures i have seen,lol)

I havent flown it online yet tho, how are the pilot wounds? and if a round hits the bomb bay under the pilot does the plane instantly detonate? Is the rear mid section of the aircraft vulnerable to rounds detonating the 15mm ammo stored for the rear gunner? I figure the more guns and ammo stored might be the reason people are seeing the aircraft as so vulnerable.

[danny76]

The thing about the 30mm vs. the 20mm packages in the 410 & 110 is the fact the ballistics all match, when it comes to the 410's durability you can find pictures of crashed 210s and 410's with little to no major damage, most look like they were even able to crash land and the pilots survived. (the few pictures i have seen,lol)

I havent flown it online yet tho, how are the pilot wounds? and if a round hits the bomb bay under the pilot does the plane instantly detonate? Is the rear mid section of the aircraft vulnerable to rounds detonating the 15mm ammo stored for the rear gunner? I figure the more guns and ammo stored might be the reason people are seeing the aircraft as so vulnerable.

Not entirely sure whether external stores are included in the damage model at all, don't remember ever hitting drop tanks or ords on an aircraft and seeing it explode. Could well be wrong, I don't hit much

[titanic3]

Not entirely sure whether external stores are included in the damage model at all, don't remember ever hitting drop tanks or ords on an aircraft and seeing it explode. Could well be wrong, I don't hit much

Ammo is stored in the tray, which is located in the bomb bay area. I would imagine one round going off would make the plane go ka-blooey.

[danny76]

Ammo is stored in the tray, which is located in the bomb bay area. I would imagine one round going off would make the plane go ka-blooey.

Agreed, just unsure whether hits on ammo and stores are modelled?

[Karnak]

Agreed, just unsure whether hits on ammo and stores are modelled?

I don't think they are beyond possibly being one of the causes of a weapon being destroyed.

[danny76]

I don't think they are beyond possibly being one of the causes of a weapon being destroyed.

Maybe when a gun is knocked out, but hits on rockets and drop tanks stored under the wings don't seem to be viable targets. Like I say I could easily be wrong but I dont think I have ever hit either

[titanic3]

I don't think they are beyond possibly being one of the causes of a weapon being destroyed.

Who knows? Being the latest plane, HTC might have made it have the most complex flight/damage model yet.

[JOACH1M]

In the 410 I'd be scared of a kid throwing stones at it...plane falls apart and flames with ease.

[Karnak]

Well, should be a bit less flammable now:

Originally posted by Pyro:
Made an adjustment to the damage modeling on the Me 410 that makes fires a little less likely.