Me410

[Charge]

The effect of slats and flaps on Cl.

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[Rich46yo]

Yup. I've even read stories that Messerschmitt continued to pay royalties during the war, through banks in Switzerland. Again totally unsubstantiated of course, but it is not outside the realm of possibility. War or no war, business is business.

I'd have to see proof to believe that. Finland was different. The Finns never wanted conflict with the west to begin with. Not to drift.

[GScholz]

Yeah, me too.

[Debrody]

On the contrary; I find it very interesting that the Hungarians managed similar S/L speed with about 600 hp less... Can you share the source of that info?

Sorry for the late answer, i didnt have net for a couple days.
Unfortunately only rumours in the hungarian flight simmers community (mostly il-2 tho)
During the era of the communism, everything from before 1945 was destroyed, maybe thats why i couldnt find any factory data.
There are books written by emmigrant pilots, mostly from the old 101st "Puma" fighter squadron, the rumours are usually referring to those memoires.

Yup, Sir, im not a reliable source  
All i can say, that "600 less horses" is still 2950 in a 17-18000lbs aircraft, if that makes sense.

[Krusty]

I'm aware that air pressure makes the slots pop out, but still, even on the mildest of manuevers they pop out. As a player that's enjoyed 109s and 110s for many years now, I have learned a gentle touch, and to fly above the stall to prevent E-bleed, but the 410 that's impossible. It's bleeding nonstop. It doesn't seem right, hence why I'm worried about the accuracy of the current flight model.

[FLS]

I'm aware that air pressure makes the slots pop out, but still, even on the mildest of manuevers they pop out. As a player that's enjoyed 109s and 110s for many years now, I have learned a gentle touch, and to fly above the stall to prevent E-bleed, but the 410 that's impossible. It's bleeding nonstop. It doesn't seem right, hence why I'm worried about the accuracy of the current flight model.

The slats operate according to angle of attack. If you understand that then you won't worry about the slats popping out in mild maneuvers.

[Krusty]

Maybe you haven't flown the 410 yet yo know what the hell I'm talking about. We're going in circles here. It's extremely frustrating.

Fly the 410. You tell me how, flying level, you pull back on the stick every so gently (about a degree nose up) and your slots pop out? And I'm not talking about stall speeds, either. I'm talking level flight at medium speeds (~250mph).

[GScholz]

That seems strange.

[Krusty]

Give it a try, offline if you have to. I was loadedout aslightly as possible, to. 25% and stock guns only.

[FLS]

You tell me how...

When you pull on the stick your AngleOfAttack increases, when your AOA is a certain angle the change in air pressure extends the slats.

The performance of the slats on the ME410 is comparable to the slats on the 109. You can black out in the ME410 without the slats extending. You can pull 4G at 300 without the slats extending. You can also extend the slats on either aircraft with "mild" maneuvers.

[Tracerfi]

so slats are the banging  i hear in the 109s

[FTJR]

so slats are the banging  i hear in the 109s

yes

[STEELE]

Sorry for the late answer, i didnt have net for a couple days.
Unfortunately only rumours in the hungarian flight simmers community (mostly il-2 tho)
During the era of the communism, everything from before 1945 was destroyed, maybe thats why i couldnt find any factory data.
There are books written by emmigrant pilots, mostly from the old 101st "Puma" fighter squadron, the rumours are usually referring to those memoires.

Yup, Sir, im not a reliable source  
All i can say, that "600 less horses" is still 2950 in a 17-18000lbs aircraft, if that makes sense.

  Give the 410 a horsepower or thrust boost, then it will match up to the actual sea level and best alt. speeds,  also climbrate.
As for filling seams, whatever,  most groundcrews sanded the wee out of the birds and whatever else they could do to squeeze extra speed out of them.
Or, check the open oil coolers for drag, then close them or simply make them impervious to any extra drag. Without any external racks it should do MINIMUM 393, if not 395, as it was tested to 388 With racks.
If the P47-d40 has higher wingload than the 410, there's def. a little trouble in Paradise, as the Jug can literally fly circles around the Messer.

[Karnak]

If the P47-d40 has higher wingload than the 410, there's def. a little trouble in Paradise, as the Jug can literally fly circles around the Messer.

It doesn't.

So far as I know, the only thing in the game with higher wing loading than the Me410 is the B-29.

[Charge]

Anybody experienced any funky stalls in 410? I have.

It flicks quite easily into a flat stall that is guaranteed to take you down to turf with no chance to recover.

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