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Offline Krusty

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Re: Me410
« Reply #180 on: July 24, 2012, 12:15:13 PM »
WEP does not equal water injection. Very few actually use water injection. Those that do experience a loss of fuel consumption as compared to military power. The rest burn a lot more fuel.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #181 on: July 24, 2012, 12:56:05 PM »
Quote from: bozon on July 24, 2012, 05:03:47 AM
410 is probably deadly against bombers if it will ever catch one.


The 410 has more than enough speed to catch the common bombers at the most common altitudes.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #182 on: July 24, 2012, 02:39:46 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on July 24, 2012, 12:15:13 PM
WEP does not equal water injection. Very few actually use water injection. Those that do experience a loss of fuel consumption as compared to military power. The rest burn a lot more fuel.
Sorry for the ignorance.
The Mossie has Merlin engines. Those did not use water injection for WEP?
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Re: Me410
« Reply #183 on: July 24, 2012, 02:56:32 PM »
Quote from: bozon on July 24, 2012, 02:39:46 PM
Sorry for the ignorance.
The Mossie has Merlin engines. Those did not use water injection for WEP?
No, just higher boost.  All Merlin, Griffon and Allison aircraft are the same in that regard.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #184 on: July 24, 2012, 04:48:48 PM »
I thought the Me410 was supposed to top out at about 390mph.  The fastest I could get it at 20,250ft is 381mph on WEP.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #185 on: July 25, 2012, 04:49:16 AM »
Yes, it's a tad slower than expected.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #186 on: July 25, 2012, 06:59:26 AM »
As an answer to GScholz's former question (im finally back):
Hungarian produced 210Cas never had mw50 as a factory default. As long as i know, the DB605Bs produced 1450-70Hp at 1.42 ata, but the plane itself was a bit lighter than the Ah's 410. Its top speed on the deck was around 318-324. Anyway, its not inportant since AH has DB-603-equipped 410s.

Btw, im still curious about HTC's answer about the modifyed speed curve. Thank you!
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Re: Me410
« Reply #187 on: July 25, 2012, 01:58:31 PM »
DB 605A/B: 1475 PS at sealevel with 1.42 ata boost. Rated alt 5.7 km, maxspeed of a/c with these engines typically ~500m above FTH due to RAM effects.
AFAIR the Hungarians tangled with the armor plates and removed some or used thinner plates.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #188 on: July 25, 2012, 05:13:54 PM »
Quote from: Debrody on July 25, 2012, 06:59:26 AM
Hungarian produced 210Cas never had mw50 as a factory default. As long as i know, the DB605Bs produced 1450-70Hp at 1.42 ata, but the plane itself was a bit lighter than the Ah's 410. Its top speed on the deck was around 318-324. Anyway, its not inportant since AH has DB-603-equipped 410s.

On the contrary; I find it very interesting that the Hungarians managed similar S/L speed with about 600 hp less... Can you share the source of that info?
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Re: Me410
« Reply #189 on: July 25, 2012, 07:00:02 PM »
Quote from: Krupinski on July 22, 2012, 01:12:00 PM
That's an under statement..  110 eats F4Us and spits.

Oh I do love a brave hog driver though.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #190 on: July 25, 2012, 07:47:35 PM »
<-- Flew the 110 as a fighter before it was cool.  :P
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Re: Me410
« Reply #191 on: July 25, 2012, 08:06:49 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on July 25, 2012, 07:47:35 PM
<-- Flew the 110 as a fighter before it was cool.  :P
Love it!! Am sooooo disappointed....had such hopes for the 410. :cry
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Re: Me410
« Reply #192 on: July 26, 2012, 01:38:58 PM »
What were you hoping for? The 410 is a tad slower in speed and climb than I expected, the rest is pretty much as I expected.



The 110 was a hoot to fly back in the day when everyone thought it could only do jabo. Surprised the *beep* out of a lot of dweebs.  :D




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Re: Me410
« Reply #193 on: July 26, 2012, 01:49:15 PM »
I wasn't expecting it to be a super plane, personally. It's a tad slower. I suppose I can live with that.

What I dislike are the lack of loadouts that would make this ride shine as a MA mission plane.

Also, I'm a bit.... "worried" about the handling. It seems very touchy. I can move my stick back half a degree and even at moderate speeds the slats pop out instantly. Not even more than 1G and those things are out constantly. It's bleeding speed like mad. Not sure why.

I do notice that the oil coolers were modeled slightly open. Look out on either wing and you'll see them sticking up like spoilers. This shouldn't be the case. All other planes have the coolers modeled closed. We know some of the lengths that HTC goes to when building the airflow mapping onto new planes. We've seen the screenshots, tantalyzing as they are. It makes me wonder if they modeled the airflow over this open oil cooler, thus hurting the plane more than others. Might create a large draggy component, might spoil the air over the top surface, losing lift, might do any number of things I don't know.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #194 on: July 26, 2012, 01:49:45 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on July 26, 2012, 01:38:58 PM
What were you hoping for? The 410 is a tad slower in speed and climb than I expected, the rest is pretty much as I expected.
This is pretty much exactly it for me as well.  I never thought it was going to be a turner as the wing loading is so high.
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