F6F Visibility Request

[Greebo]

The thing is this game is in part a simulation of WW2 aircraft and vehicles and their respective strengths and weaknesses. Simulating the differences in cockpit visibility of the various aircraft is a part of that and artificially improving the F6F's would give it an unfair advantage over planes which had a better rear view in real life. So unless you can prove the real aircraft had a better rear view than the AH version has, your wish is probably not going to happen.

[Slade]

So unless you can prove the real aircraft had a better rear view than the AH version has, your wish is probably not going to happen.

Prior to posting this wish, I found multiple posts suggesting the visibility of a real F6F was better than the game version.  I may have been wrong in understanding this.  I think there is only one way to get the truth.  Sit in an existing F6F-5 and observe the 6 view.  Share photos if the view is actually better.

Where is the closest F6F-5 from Cape Canaveral, FL?  

Sounds like a fun adventure (at least to me).

EDIT: I do have an F4F one mile from me that I could do this with but that would probably not be close enough to an F6?.  If you guys think otherwise I'll do an F4F recon and post the images from the cockpit.

[smoe]

I wish for better visibility for all planes and vehicles.

My wish pertains mainly to the vertical canopy posts. In real life the canopy posts are NOT blind spots. Right now all game simulations assume the operator has cyclops vision. In real life most operators have two (2) eyes. Having two eyes means you can see around some objects. The blind spot in a canopy post, for example, would only reach a few feet after the post (assuming the post's width is less than the measured distance between a persons eye, which is around 2 to 2.5 inches). The cheep fix is to make the canopy posts thinner, unfortunately some of the AH2 upgrades included fattening the canopy posts.

[RTHolmes]

that is one thing I imagine trackIR gives you a good advantage with - the rare occasions I fly a 109 I wish I had trackIR just to glance around the girders.

I think there is only one way to get the truth.  Sit in an existing F6F-5 and observe the 6 view.  Share photos if the view is actually better.

good idea, and make sure you tighten the lap belt so you cant move in the seat. and if you take photos, make sure the camera is pushed up against your face, no holding it at arms length ...

[Slade]

Having two eyes means you can see around some objects. The blind spot in a canopy post, for example, would only reach a few feet after the post (assuming the post's width is less than the measured distance between a persons eye, which is around 2 to 2.5 inches). The cheep fix is to make the canopy posts thinner, unfortunately some of the AH2 upgrades included fattening the canopy posts.

Smoe, that is a very good point and suggestion sir. +1

[Wiley]

that is one thing I imagine trackIR gives you a good advantage with - the rare occasions I fly a 109 I wish I had trackIR just to glance around the girders.

Yes, it does help a fair bit with most aircraft.  Another main advantage is you can track other aircraft much much better with it looking through the blackout tunnel.  Downside with TIR is the rear views in things like the F6F/F4Fs.  I can get better six views in them with the hat, but looking around the rest of the cockpit bars is better with the TIR.

good idea, and make sure you tighten the lap belt so you cant move in the seat. and if you take photos, make sure the camera is pushed up against your face, no holding it at arms length ...

If we used those constraints for all aircraft, the view system in this game would be much more limited than it is.  I think it's a pretty fair concession to game play that we are all Linda Blair, and can move impossibly in the cockpit.

Wiley.

[RTHolmes]

I think it's a pretty fair concession to game play that we are all Linda Blair

 

[Shifty]

A squaddie of mine summed it up nicely. "Fly the F6F... You'll never look back."  

[Wiley]

A squaddie of mine summed it up nicely. "Fly the F6F... You'll never look back."  

I love the plane.  It greatly reduces stress, not having to bother looking behind you and getting depressed by what's on your six.

Wiley.

[Butcher]

The thing is this game is in part a simulation of WW2 aircraft and vehicles and their respective strengths and weaknesses. Simulating the differences in cockpit visibility of the various aircraft is a part of that and artificially improving the F6F's would give it an unfair advantage over planes which had a better rear view in real life. So unless you can prove the real aircraft had a better rear view than the AH version has, your wish is probably not going to happen.

+1 After looking at images after images I see no proof here but a bunch of whiners saying they can't see behind them.

[guncrasher]

if while looking to the side you roll the plane slightly left or right that gives you a better viewing angle of what is behind you.  do a full roll while looking back and you will have no doubts.  it doesnt get any easier than that.   not plane is perfect but if you really want to change something, change the forward view of the f6f.  I can see better in back of me than forward in the f6f, go figure.  that is the reason I hardly fly german planes, cons right in front of me keep disappearing.


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[JOACH1M]

I hardly use the f6 just because the views suck.

[Ruah]

I see out the rear fine in the F6F.

[bustr]

In TrackIR 2axis mode or hat switch mode you can emulate being a 6ft+ guy like this with your head high up inside of the cockpit. Then you just see back over and around the upper edge of the bulkhead. That mirror is probably what everyone really wants. Hitech recently replyed concerning mirrors with a "NO". One reason is it would favor players with better computers.

[Letalis]

F6F-3 would be great to a point.  No bombs/rockets... low speed roll up to around 280 would be better than the -5 but much inferior above that.  May not be modeled as tough due to unreinforced tail section.  Overall it would become the 38J to the 38L without as much use.