should me410 have removable rear guns?

[Butcher]

What was the RAF fighter with the 4 gun turret on it? I want that.

Paul Defiant, and it was a terrible idea - its only success was early in WW2 due to fact german's mistook it for Hurricanes late in the Poney campaign and Early BoB, but afterwards they employed head on and belly shots which rendered it quite useless.
It had no forward firing guns, and rear turret was actually only 4x 303s in a powered turret, top speed also was pretty bad.

[RTHolmes]

What was the RAF fighter with the 4 gun turret on it? I want that.

no you really dont ...

[Slash27]

Is my humor really that complicated?

[Ack-Ack]

Paul Defiant, and it was a terrible idea - its only success was early in WW2 due to fact german's mistook it for Hurricanes late in the Poney campaign and Early BoB, but afterwards they employed head on and belly shots which rendered it quite useless.
It had no forward firing guns, and rear turret was actually only 4x 303s in a powered turret, top speed also was pretty bad.

I was surprised to read that one squadron, 264 Squadron, had actually developed a successful defensive counter to single engine fighters like the Bf 109.  264 Sqn. pilots would enter into a descending Lufberry circle that prevented the Bf 109 attackers from being able to attack from underneath and gave the Defiants a 360 degree defensive fire.  On May 29th, 1940 264 Sqn claimed 37 kills in two sorties (19 Ju87s, 9 Bf 110s, 8 Bf 109s and 1 Ju-88) and claimed 48 kills in total over an 8 day period during the Dunkirk evacuations with 14 Defiants lost.

ack-ack

[Butcher]

I was surprised to read that one squadron, 264 Squadron, had actually developed a successful defensive counter to single engine fighters like the Bf 109.  264 Sqn. pilots would enter into a descending Lufberry circle that prevented the Bf 109 attackers from being able to attack from underneath and gave the Defiants a 360 degree defensive fire.  On May 29th, 1940 264 Sqn claimed 37 kills in two sorties (19 Ju87s, 9 Bf 110s, 8 Bf 109s and 1 Ju-88) and claimed 48 kills in total over an 8 day period during the Dunkirk evacuations with 14 Defiants lost.

ack-ack

Interesting info, wasn't it completely removed during BoB due to losses in combat? can't recall exact info on the Paul D, but I know once the germans started identifying it as not a hurricane they were quite easy to kill.

[Ruah]

fat chance it will happen.

410 will never be a dog fighter

[RTHolmes]

Is my humor really that complicated?

it has to be the worst wishlist Ive seen which fits AH criteria. the coolest thing about it by a factor of 1000 is the name. I'm english and I'm embarassed we came even came up with the idea of the defiant

[Ack-Ack]

it has to be the worst wishlist Ive seen which fits AH criteria. the coolest thing about it by a factor of 1000 is the name. I'm english and I'm embarassed we came even came up with the idea of the defiant

Regardless of the plane's history, the Defiant crews were probably some of the bravest airmen to ever set foot in an airplane.

ack-ack

[Slash27]

it has to be the worst wishlist Ive seen which fits AH criteria. the coolest thing about it by a factor of 1000 is the name. I'm english and I'm embarassed we came even came up with the idea of the defiant

[Oldman731]

Is my humor really that complicated?

Apparently it is.

Reminds me of an old story:

An American and an Englishman are traveling together through England in the
Englishman's car. The car stops at an intersection and the American
observes a sign, which reads:

"Woolston-on-Rye, three miles left. If you are illiterate, ask the
blacksmith for directions."

The American cackles with laughter. The Englishman smiles nervously, and
says, "I'm not certain I understand what's so funny." The American, still
chuckling, decides not to embarrass his friend, and simply waves off further
inquiry. As they motor down the road, the Englishman repeatedly mumbles to
himself, "I wonder what was so funny?"

Finally, ten minutes later, the Englishman breaks into peals of laughter.

"I get it now," he shouts. "What if the blacksmith isn't home!"

- oldman

[titanic3]

Apparently it is.

Reminds me of an old story:

An American and an Englishman are traveling together through England in the
Englishman's car. The car stops at an intersection and the American
observes a sign, which reads:

"Woolston-on-Rye, three miles left. If you are illiterate, ask the
blacksmith for directions."

The American cackles with laughter. The Englishman smiles nervously, and
says, "I'm not certain I understand what's so funny." The American, still
chuckling, decides not to embarrass his friend, and simply waves off further
inquiry. As they motor down the road, the Englishman repeatedly mumbles to
himself, "I wonder what was so funny?"

Finally, ten minutes later, the Englishman breaks into peals of laughter.

"I get it now," he shouts. "What if the blacksmith isn't home!"

- oldman

 

[Slash27]

Fester! add me to your board! I sent you a pm

huh?

[shermanjr]

have had several instances where back guns have saved me couple times from a zeke couple spittys and a 109, tho they r hard to hit with, but r fun guns to use gives someoen a big surprise

[bozon]

Sounds like a field mod to me.  That would open an ungodly slippery slope.

Wiley.

I want the option to remove my navigator from the Mossie VI. He is completely useless dead weight, just sitting there smoking and use foul language. I bet that him, his seat, his oxygen bottle, his share of inflight refreshments and ego is at least 2000 lbs.

[surfinn]

scored my first 410 kill the other day against patton. Although I did down him I didn't rtb to tell the story those rear guns carry quite a punch. He took my engine out, one control surface, and several holes in cockpit. If ya have a good rear gunner it can be quite a surprise for attacking ac.