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Offline Chalenge

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P-51 options
« on: July 20, 2012, 02:21:08 PM »
Recently the P-51D has been questioned concerning the 1k eggs it carries. Well we can lay that to rest. However it also seems there are a few extra options that have been overlooked.

For one the drop tanks we have dont appear to be the most often used. In fact until the last months of the war they didnt see much use at all. Probably they were more popular in the Pacific as 110 gallon tanks but for the 8th A.F. it was 108 gallon paper tanks manufactured in England.

Second the P-51B/Cs (actually Mustang IIIs) also carried 1k eggs but they dont have them as an option. I believe this option should be made available so I am adding them to this wish. Also adding the 500lb bomb and one drop tank to the B/C model wouldnt hurt.

The P-51Ds also used the Bazooka rockets particularly in India but I believe the HVARs we have is sufficient.

I would like to see 110/108 gallon drop tanks added to the P-51s and 1k eggs added to the B/C packages.





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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2012, 02:21:58 PM »




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Re: P-51 options
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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2012, 02:27:47 PM »
If the P-51D was given the bazooka rockets as an ordnance option, players will never use it and will continue to use the HVARs.

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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2012, 02:28:38 PM »
Please read again what I said about that ack-ack.
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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2012, 02:45:07 PM »
Please read again what I said about that ack-ack.

I know what you said about that but was just saying if the bazooka launchers were ever added they would not be used.

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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2012, 03:09:54 PM »
How common and when were the 1000lbers on the P-51Bs?
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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2012, 03:56:42 PM »
Recently the P-51D has been questioned concerning the 1k eggs it carries. Well we can lay that to rest.

I don't recall people questioning the 1000lb bombs, it's the combination of rockets and 1000lb bombs that were questioned.

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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2012, 04:15:35 PM »
I agree adding the bazooka would be a waste of time since nobody would ever take them due to the drag it would add, however as everyone points out -  lose the 1000lb bombs and rockets.

+1 for more DT's although not sure if they are really needed?


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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2012, 06:20:44 PM »
As pointed out the 1000 lb bombs and rockets were used. I know you want them gone FSL but they were used obviously and your desire to have them removed on the basis of none use is ridiculous.

Karnak read the last two pages posted. As noted in there this was a common load on RAF Mustang IIIs. Both the Bazooka types and 65lb rockets (8 per plane) were used also as noted. So the P-51s could also have 8 rockets added.

Butcher the larger tanks come in handy on the larger maps when escorting bombers. There have been many sorties where I have landed on fumes at minimum power settings even when flying up high where less fuel is burned.
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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2012, 06:26:33 PM »
I was just reading some GI documentation on the mustang's fuel system last week, it refered to the 75 gal and one size up (I think 85 or 95) combat drop tanks and made a seperate reference to larger paper ferrying tanks.... I was busy with the task at hand but just made a mental note of it.  I haven't had any time to follow through since unfortunatley.

Also I stumbled across an original wiring spec for the electrical system that solely dealt with the rocket ignition system, when they upgraded to the HVARs from the tubes (6 rocket capacity) the new launch system was a 10 rocket capacity, standard (5 each wing, odds one side evens the other).

So Challenge may be on to something with his request, if our mustang is that early it should have the tube option, otherwise it's a later model and is missing 4-rockets.
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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2012, 06:27:45 PM »
Does this mean that RAF and German aircraft fans should go wild posting loadouts that aren't in AH?

Don't pretend the P-51 is singled out in its lack of all loadouts.
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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2012, 06:34:53 PM »
No Karnak... it means I am wishing for more options as I requested.

This is a P-51A with bazooka type rockets and 1000 lb bombs. As someone noted previously (years ago) that the photographic units didnt fight. Well this is the 10th Combat Camera Unit (8th Recon Group) in India. They also used P-51s (you know the ones with cannons everyone is afraid of) in combat roles.

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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2012, 06:37:09 PM »
Does this mean that RAF and German aircraft fans should go wild posting loadouts that aren't in AH?

Don't pretend the P-51 is singled out in its lack of all loadouts.

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Re: P-51 options
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2012, 06:49:57 PM »
As pointed out the 1000 lb bombs and rockets were used. I know you want them gone FSL but they were used obviously and your desire to have them removed on the basis of none use is ridiculous.

Actually I pointed out numerous times they wern't used in WW2, you wanted it I showed the source and proof in the other forums - even in Korea they did NOT use 1,000lb bombs and rockets even when the target was CAS less then 100 miles from Seoul.

Find me a photo of a D mustang with 1,000lb bombs and HVAR rockets or some source on who used it.
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