When will we get a new MAP?

[zack1234]

what would be the benefit if a new map?

[Midway]

what would be the benefit if a new map?

Ability to whine cause it's another map they don't like and then can beg for another?

[Dead Man Flying]

The map is irrelevant.  The fight is the only thing that matters.

[Lusche]

The map is irrelevant.  The fight is the only thing that matters.

The frequency and nature of fights depend a lot on map setup.

[Shuffler]

It means a lot. It can make a world of a difference on the number and type fights you can get. Just take the difference between having a large map like TAGMA or a small map like Mindanao during off hours with only 50-70 players online.
Some maps generate a steady stream of medium to high altitude bombers. SFMA has the eternal A1-19 furball no matter what time of day is, while in the western country on Trinity you can have a lot of trouble to find any air battle that's worth it's name. Fighting over huge mountains with a lot of canyons is way different from maps with a lot of water and frequent CV battles.

If your fighting just go to the fight. If your not fighting then you may have issues with maps.

[Lusche]

If your fighting just go to the fight. If your not fighting then you may have issues with maps.

One of the most ignorant  statements I have read in a long time.

[Dead Man Flying]

The frequency and nature of fights depend a lot on map setup.

It certainly can.  However, by and large dedicated furballers barely notice the map beyond texture changes.  Some maps promote certain kinds of fights and might funnel players into one area rather than spread them out over a wide front, but a fight is a fight is a fight.

[Lusche]

It certainly can.  However, by and large dedicated furballers barely notice the map beyond texture changes.  

At US primetimes, yes. As a dedicated furballer I could always find a fight.
Try it when being stuck on a particular country on a large map with on 50 people on... On midnanao or other small maps with a similar base layout, I can still find a fight... on Trinity, I might better log off when I happen to be on the western country.

And there are palyers who are not dedicated furballers and still fight. This isn't the only valid gaming mode.


And all that is the reason why the generalized statement "map doesn't matter" is only true for a limited number of players.

[Dead Man Flying]

And there are palyers who are not dedicated furballers and still fight. This isn't the only valid gaming mode.

As a furballer, I didn't and don't really care about other gaming modes.  No offense to those who enjoy them of course, and for them the map holds more relevance, but for me the only real issue was how long it would take me to get to the action.

And all that is the reason why the generalized statement "map doesn't matter" is only true for a limited number of players.

It's called hyperbole.  If the map truly didn't matter, we'd have air starts and three bases all equidistant from one another.

[Shuffler]

One of the most ignorant  statements I have read in a long time.

Oh darn.. you just topped it.   

[Megalodon]

     As long as it shows maps to cheeseburgers, sure why not? 

[TequilaChaser]

its the new age of gaming.............. give me, give me, give me........

I remember a time when the map never changed, stayed the same for years....... did BigWeek ever change........ not that I can remember....... and noone ever complained about iirc.....

I never really undetstood the new map whines myself, all it is is terrain to fly over and fight over........... and maybe sometimes capture perhaps

the main reason of not being able to use the AvsA maps and some FSO/scenario maps is the frame they are based on mostly...... 1024? for MA's  and the smaller AvsA and some FSO/scenarios are based on 256 or 512, again iirc ( every map built has 3 countrys, it will not work with only 2 countrys, got to have 3, regardless of where the map is being used/hosted .... that is how HTC has set it up/designed it )  just saying.....

TC

[Nathan60]

Ability to whine cause it's another map they don't like and then can beg for another?

As opposed to whining about a ARENA they dont like?

[Nathan60]

One of the most ignorant  statements I have read in a long time.

I wouldnt say ignorant just not very eloquent. The point is, shuff  who wants to fly 40 mins to find a fight when you could be only flying 5 mins? Like TC  its  a gimmie gimmie culture now

[Babalonian]

Greebo submitted a pretty cool map recently....