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« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2012, 11:34:33 AM »
 In 2011 we had an earthquake on the Eastcoast. Everyone got on thier phones and crashed the network due to the massive volume. So make a plan as communications will be useless in a large scale event.  :eek:
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« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2012, 11:40:08 AM »
Guys  its just been over a year since the DC/Denver nookquakes. The earth is hollow and ther eis a war raging betrween the airforce and navy vs. CIA/shadow gov't(alien overlords http://www.eutimes.net/2011/08/russia-reports-nuclear-explosions-hit-vast-us-military-tunnel-network/
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« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2012, 12:39:18 PM »
Katrina was not all that bad as a hurricane. It simply hit a place where folks live below sea level.

We have had much worse hurricanes in the past.

Are you flipping serious?  The sustained wind speeds at the NOAA station at the Slidell Airport were over 170 mph.  That's a very serious wind speed.  The storm surge was 40 feet deep on the NE side.  The water at Lake Front Airport in New Orleans on Lake Ponchtrain reached the 3rd story of the terminal/tower building.  That hurricane was likely a 5 when it hit, but it is impossible to say because most of the monitoring stations near the eye were destroyed.

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« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2012, 12:52:00 PM »
In 2011 we had an earthquake on the Eastcoast. Everyone got on thier phones and crashed the network due to the massive volume. So make a plan as communications will be useless in a large scale event.  :eek:

This has also to do with how carriers oversubscribe their networks. This also happened after sept 11 and many other events...
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« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2012, 12:55:11 PM »
Are you flipping serious?  The sustained wind speeds at the NOAA station at the Slidell Airport were over 170 mph.  That's a very serious wind speed.  The storm surge was 40 feet deep on the NE side.  The water at Lake Front Airport in New Orleans on Lake Ponchtrain reached the 3rd story of the terminal/tower building.  That hurricane was likely a 5 when it hit, but it is impossible to say because most of the monitoring stations near the eye were destroyed.

I don't like to insult people, but man are you for real today?

You may want to look back at the historical hurricanes. Katrina was strong but not as bad as some in the past. It hit a place where many folks live below sea level and were not intelligent enough to get out. You hear lousianna this and lousianna that but Alabama and Mississippi were hit every bit as hard... maybe harder. You just saw them come together and rebuild. None of that you owe me this or you owe me that as came from lousianna.
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« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2012, 01:05:23 PM »
You may want to look back at the historical hurricanes. Katrina was strong but not as bad as some in the past. It hit a place where many folks live below sea level and were not intelligent enough to get out. You hear lousianna this and lousianna that but Alabama and Mississippi were hit every bit as hard... maybe harder. You just saw them come together and rebuild. None of that you owe me this or you owe me that as came from lousianna.

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Katrina was likely a cat 5.  That is a serious hurricane.  While it may not have been the strongest, it was a bad hurricane.  Anyone that says it wasn't a bad or serious hurricane is being foolish.

Further, the sea level statement is very misleading.  While certain areas of metro NOLA and the west side are below sea level (owing to it sinking over the past 300 years) a good portion of it is not below sea level.

As for the whining from LA....  man, I do not know where to start.  Sure, there were plenty of people that whined, but there were countless others that just quietly went forward, fixed their homes on their own dime and then fought the insurance companies which in some case is still an ongoing fight.  I know it took almost 3 years for the insurance company to pay for my father-in-law's damage... 

In all the nicest terms I can muster, you really do not know what you are talking about.
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« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2012, 01:09:36 PM »
As for the whining from LA....  man, I do not know where to start.  
Yeah shuff all the whiners were moved to Memphis, Atlanta and  Houston, basicaly anywhere around LA  where crime saw  a dramatic rise ppost Katrina. Not thier fault the city did not have enough revenue  to properly maintain thier defenses or get the poorer people out of the lower lying areas. All that lootin of alcohol and tvs  was what tghey needed to survive.
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« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2012, 02:06:48 PM »
Yeah shuff all the whiners were moved to Memphis, Atlanta and  Houston, basicaly anywhere around LA  where crime saw  a dramatic rise ppost Katrina. Not thier fault the city did not have enough revenue  to properly maintain thier defenses or get the poorer people out of the lower lying areas. All that lootin of alcohol and tvs  was what tghey needed to survive.

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« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2012, 02:10:33 PM »
You have absolutely no clue about the topic with which you entered.  

So how many NOLA  refugees you delt with in the UP? I have delt with alot in ATL and  they whine about everything,  thier house flooding because the levys broke becauis ethe city coulnnt keep the Nutra problem down, then  they didnt provide enough busses to move the poor  or old ort infirm, then it was Bush's fault for them moving to live in provided trailers  then it was FEMA for putting them up in bad parts of the city in Atlanta, or Memphis  aor Houston. They said it was just as bad as  NOLA with the crime..

Only a Sparty would call someone out for not knowing the fact  when they themselves  know noting of  the facts that I know the fact of!
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« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2012, 02:32:27 PM »
So glad whe dont have to deal witht he Whiners when NOLA floods THIS time they all still live next door to me in my ghetto.
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« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2012, 02:46:10 PM »

As for the whining from LA....  man, I do not know where to start.  Sure, there were plenty of people that whined, but there were countless others that just quietly went forward, fixed their homes on their own dime and then fought the insurance companies which in some case is still an ongoing fight.  I know it took almost 3 years for the insurance company to pay for my father-in-law's damage... 

Of course not all were lazy. I'm sure a few worked diligently to rebuild. I'd say many did not though. I do know the folks who came to Houston trashed the Astrodome. Many used their govenment supplied cards for booze and strip clubs.

I'm sure not all the people who came here were like that. It sure changed the way I think of louisianna and the people there.


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« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2012, 05:49:47 PM »
Katrina sat image captured august 28 2005, i found this on wikipedia just to compare the  images;


Isaac, sat image captured today august 28 2012/ interesting exactly 7 years later, Katrina was more powerfull,concentrated, but Isaac looks ugly aslo;
posted here on NOAA http://www.nnvl.noaa.gov/imageoftheday.php
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« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2012, 05:57:17 PM »
Of course not all were lazy. I'm sure a few worked diligently to rebuild. I'd say many did not though. I do know the folks who came to Houston trashed the Astrodome. Many used their govenment supplied cards for booze and strip clubs.

I'm sure not all the people who came here were like that. It sure changed the way I think of louisianna and the people there.

So you are basing your entire opinion of Louisiana on few of the ignorant fools that were relocated?  Yeah, that's a great idea.... 

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« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2012, 05:58:07 PM »
Only 1-2 over 4.0, nothing to worry about. If anything, this is a good thing, loosening up the faults and making the big one weaker.

This, swarms of quakes are not unheard of in very seismic active areas... rare and not well understood/studied yet, but not something to be worried about.  What you want to be worried about is a real seismic hotzone going absolutely quiet, not that having dozens of tiny baby quakes throughout the night is any more reassuring.
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« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2012, 09:36:41 PM »
You may want to look back at the historical hurricanes. Katrina was strong but not as bad as some in the past. It hit a place where many folks live below sea level and were not intelligent enough to get out. You hear lousianna this and lousianna that but Alabama and Mississippi were hit every bit as hard... maybe harder. You just saw them come together and rebuild. None of that you owe me this or you owe me that as came from lousianna.

Name one Hurricane that had the perfect mixture of absolute water put forth in a storm surge and damn near Cat 5 winds.   You're the only one, besides Nathan putting Louisiana in the forefront of the discussion for your own selfish reasons.   But I assure you that your post is chock-full of inaccuracies in regards to Katrina.  

Define "Strong".   Katrina was a Category 3 Hurricane (hang on Bodhi), with a Category 4+ Storm Surge when it made the second landfall in the Gulf.   In fact, your buddy Nathan brings up a word he cannot even spell correctly.  Levees.   Did some of them fail?  Yep.   But the majority of them held, for only the graces of God and are now being re-engineered.   Levees rated to Category 3, were tasked with even more water than they weren't designed to.    Several of them broke, but the damage would have been even more catastrophic had more failed.  

The major one being the Industrial Canal that had been breached prior and was ignored after Betsy in 64 or 65, when the floodwaters spilled into Lower 9th Ward (Bodhi and other NO residents can probably go into more detail, but as I have read over the years, this is the simplest way to put it).    At the same time that the Industrial Canal was failing, Ponchartrain spilled into the London and 17th canals.   Even worse yet, the two canals IIRC, by design, are supposed to put the water from the streets and pump it back into the lake.    However, the storm, reversed the entire works and the pumps that were supposed to pump water, pumped the water, but caused the mis-engineered levees to fail.   The Floodwalls held, but let's blame the looters!

Strong.   Hmm.   I'm 39 and cannot think of a Natural Disaster (in the United States) that can come close to Katrina.    Maybe the Tornadoes from the 1999 season, only because you have an even "smaller target" and less warning, or the 89 Quake.  Katrina careened from a 4 to a 5 like a dodge em' car in a pub, sometimes changing hourly, until landfall.   But this was one of the few times, where a "storm surge did NOT fall into line with a wind rating".    But let's blame the looters!

I bet the looters are the reason Katrina is Number 1!

No. 1. Katrina (2005) — $45.115 Billion*
No. 2. Andrew (1992) — $22.231 Billion*
No. 3. Ike (2008) — $12.648 Billion*
No. 4. Wilma (2005) — $11.306 Billion*
No. 5. Charley (2004) — $8.479 Billion*
No. 6. Ivan (2005) — $8.065 Billion*
No. 7. Hugo (1989) — $6.624 Billion*
No. 8. Rita (2005) — $6.177 Billion*
No. 9. Frances (2004) — $5.212 Billion*
No. 10. Jeanne (2004) — $4.146 Billion*
*Based on estimated insured losses for property coverage and adjusted to 2009 dollars.

It's a shame that 1% of NO's population causes a city to be judged, by people just as ignorant as they were.   This takes me back to the sickening posts by some of the members of this very BBS while Katrina was both headed towards land and after.   Don't forget about Rita making landfall not even a Month later.
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