Author Topic: Just a random observation  (Read 5468 times)

Offline Nathan60

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4573
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2012, 01:23:39 PM »
I thought GV.s were a integral part of the game.

I know people who really like the GV's .

Its good fun Air and GV attaking a base.

Huh  a  comment that makes sense?!?!? Having a true Air ground aspect to a battle is way more fun then just Furballin IMO. The fact that you have fighters defending bombers that are  bombing tanks  is way more realistinc then just horde/furball and I would like to see all those guys that want the game to be more realistic to take on that mentality.  Since its important to fix  the F4U becasue "its  a little off"  shouldnt proper battles and tactics be important too?
HamHawk
Wing III-- Pigs on The Wing
FSO--JG54
CHUGGA-CHUGGA, CHOO-CHOO
Pigs go wing deep

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23888
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2012, 01:29:25 PM »
Its now apperently a good portion of the game  atleast a 1/3 of the kills on a bad gv map(correct if wroing Lusche) 

Stay tuned for detailed breakdown of object usage by map for tour 151 early next month  :old:
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

Offline LCADolby

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7313
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2012, 01:42:02 PM »
Avoid the horde, seek solice oon the GV war.
JG5 "Eismeer"
YouTube+Twitch - 20Dolby10


"BE a man and shoot me in the back" - pez

Offline zack1234

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13213
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2012, 01:43:06 PM »
Avoid the horde, seek solice oon the GV war.

girl!
There are no pies stored in this plane overnight

                          
The GFC
Pipz lived in the Wilderness near Ontario

Offline LCADolby

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7313
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2012, 01:45:35 PM »
JG5 "Eismeer"
YouTube+Twitch - 20Dolby10


"BE a man and shoot me in the back" - pez

Offline SPKmes

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3270
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2012, 02:16:46 PM »
Stay tuned for detailed breakdown of object usage by map for tour 151 early next month  :old:

It would be interesting to see if there has been an increase in the flak numbers ... I have noted lately that wirbs, ostis and m16's are used in force when bringing in M3's .... not sure if this has changed K/D though...chances are yes as I personally have been getting killed multiple times in this manner also those around... much more than previously

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23888
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2012, 02:35:33 PM »
It would be interesting to see if there has been an increase in the flak numbers ... I have noted lately that wirbs, ostis and m16's are used in force when bringing in M3's ....

'Lately' meaning what? ... Just so that I can answer this question better. A cursory glance at the numbers seems not to support your thesis, but I would be glad to take a closer look at it...
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

Offline SPKmes

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3270
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2012, 03:00:42 PM »
'Lately' meaning what? ... Just so that I can answer this question better. A cursory glance at the numbers seems not to support your thesis, but I would be glad to take a closer look at it...


Probably only in the last tour and this ...it seems to be a trend of late ... never knew why it was never used to the extent I have noted in the last couple of tours...It is a tactic I have noted Bish and Rook use ...  might not be a bit enough time period for a statistician like yourself 8)
« Last Edit: August 28, 2012, 03:07:17 PM by SPKmes »

Offline zack1234

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13213
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2012, 03:13:56 PM »
I do like m16's to be honest.

lots of ammo :)
There are no pies stored in this plane overnight

                          
The GFC
Pipz lived in the Wilderness near Ontario

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23888
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2012, 03:28:33 PM »
Probably only in the last tour and this ...it seems to be a trend of late ... never knew why it was never used to the extent I have noted in the last couple of tours...It is a tactic I have noted Bish and Rook use ...  might not be a bit enough time period for a statistician like yourself 8)


Ok, I checked this year's numbers up to today and could not find any significant change in AA GV usage, neither in total, nor within this category itself. As a matter of fact, the variations are very small indeed.
So it might be just you - which isn't uncommon at all. The individual experience can (and often will be) be very different from the arena average
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

Offline SPKmes

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3270
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2012, 03:39:01 PM »
aye ... perhaps it is more the fact that I have been doing my OE and defending bases against Bish and Rook alike lately.. and as I am not normally in an area of friendly base takes I have not noticed what my predominant side does....now I have :D

Offline Nathan60

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4573
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2012, 03:39:12 PM »
I do like m16's to be honest.

lots of ammo :)

yes this is completely random observation of a different tyoe. Nice of you to show the difference Zack  :D
HamHawk
Wing III-- Pigs on The Wing
FSO--JG54
CHUGGA-CHUGGA, CHOO-CHOO
Pigs go wing deep

Offline The Fugitive

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 17921
      • Fugi's Aces Help
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2012, 04:03:17 PM »

No, only vehicles, excluding LVt's and PT boats.


And of course it's because of the V135 spawn. The last time Trinity was up, the 135 spawn battle was largely absent because the bases around it had been captured. Total GV quota: 35%.
This time the 135 spawn battle is 'working', and the total GV quota since it came up again 44 hours ago is 55%.

So yes, that single camp is absolutely inflating the numbers. But that should not dilute the fact that the ground game has become more and more important over the years:

(Image removed from quote.)
(Note: G2A kills do include ship/field gun)

It doesn't surprise me at all. After all it is much easier to get kills in a GV. Spawn and shoot, about all there is to the GV game. If there isn't a good spot to camp from GV kills go down, see the numbers above. Also, with the addition of a wider variety of vehicle to play with it is becoming the way the game is played.

Flying is much harder to learn. More and more players are not bothering to put in the time to get better, but just join up with the rest of the horde. Less and less people fight the horde as it is a losing battle for most.... seeing as they really don't know how to fight anyway. So we see less and less A2A kills because there is less combat/conflict.

I think Lusche called it, the next version of the game will be called "Aces Low"

Offline 715

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1835
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2012, 05:23:38 PM »
As everyone has mentioned, the rapid kill/death rate of a GV spawn camp greatly skews the 64% number.  However, GVs are popular: I often count the number of players (on my side) in GVs at major GV battles and it usually comes out at about 20 to 25% of all players "in flight" for my side.  So that shows that players are spending about 1/4 of their time in GVs or 1/4 of players are GVers or a mix.  So it's not quite Aces High, but it's not Aces Low either.

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23888
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: Just a random observation
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2012, 05:34:07 PM »
However, GVs are popular: I often count the number of players (on my side) in GVs at major GV battles and it usually comes out at about 20 to 25% of all players "in flight" for my side.  So that shows that players are spending about 1/4 of their time in GVs or 1/4 of players are GVers or a mix. 

You are a keen observer. Your estimation is spot on!  :salute
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman