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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2012, 10:28:42 AM »
I have mixed opinions. Overall, I'm still a fan, but I want to go punch the writers some times.


Good

I feel the dialog has improved for the Doctor, and so Matt Smith is roughly equal to David Tennant on screen, but I think that if Tennant had had Smith's dialog, the TV very well might explode from the ensuing epicness. Even with Matt saying the lines, the show is amazing.the only problem with this,is that matt smiths doctor has a "darkness" about him. david tennant's doctor wasn't this way, and i don't think would've pulled it off.
Special effects have also continued to improve. I was overjoyed when I saw the weeping angles move for the first time!while i love the special effects, part of what originally drew me to dr. who, was the "cheesiness" of the crappy special effects back in the 70's. it was cool to see the weeping angels move, but the first weeping angel episode was much much better, as it scared you with what you DIDN'T see, rather then what you did. this(to me anyway) harkens back to the old horror, or mystery/suspense movies.


Plots are also pretty damn good for the most part. They usually cover some very interesting topics, or concepts. Only a few flops on individual episodes.



Bad

His companions need to either be hot, a BA like the doctor (see Capt. Jack), or at the very least, further the plot line with their actions, rather than by being in proximity to The Doctor. Yes, I am saying that the stupid ginger from season 4 should have been jetisoned in the episode "The Doctor's Daughter"rory's a little more bad arsed than you think. he's more of an "accidental" hero. i think they needed to bring him in, considering that amy's the dr's mother in law.


I feel they've taken things way too far in the "No, I never use guns. No weapons!! Put down that rock, its a weapon!!!!!!!!!" thing, but then they don't follow up on it with all his actions. I mean in "A Good Man Goes to War", he destroyed an entire cyber-fleet just to make a point! First new season, hes yelling at Daleks to go die, shooting at them with guns, the whole nine yards.i don't think they really say this. it's more like he hates war, and having to use weapons, but he will use them......and he will fubar you if you piss him off.


I mean, the guy is a soldier for christ's sake, they reference the Time War and how he ended it single handedly in nearly every season.


Also, they use the preception filter as a rough patch job for a plot hole.

"There was litterally a door right there 2 seconds ago!"
"Preception filter. It made you think there was a door there."
"But we walked through the door to get into thi..."
"Its a preception filter, just don't worry about it!!"


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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2012, 10:29:36 AM »
I saw part of one show..... soap opera bleh

 yea, but it's got something soap operas don't......action. not only action, but cool/groovy space/alien action.
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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2012, 11:42:41 AM »
I personally started watching the show with Tennant, I think in his last season or two, and then of course the past couple of years with Smith. I've seen some of the 9th doctor and wasn't really impressed, but I've never seen much of the 'old' series.
Anyway... I love Smith, personally I do think he's better than Tennant. Honestly I think the whole series has been stepped up a significant notch since Tennant left as well, so it is actually kind of difficult to separate the variables and decide whether it's Smith I like or just the series on the whole but... I do like Matt Smith.
But, as alluded to, the whole series is just so... great, since they brought Smith in. The Doctor has so much more depth. Amy & Rory play off of the new Doctor perfectly and the entire chemistry of the cast is brilliant. The cinematography is so much better and the effects are as well, but still with that little bit of cheese necessary for it to be Doctor Who.
Of course what's really interesting is how the Doctor's evolved. Smith's Doctor is so much darker, much more violent, and much more troubled with his dichotomy of being a force for good and the savior of humanity while also being incredibly destructive and cold to.... a lot of other races. In fact, the Doctor has been getting increasingly mired in this and as a result Smith has had hardly the time to be the light-hearted whimsical guy Tennant was. He seems to fall on that side about as often as Tennant had his outbursts of anger and violence.
But luckily, Amy and Rory play off this perfectly. Rory brings a lot of comic relief and light heartedness that you miss from the Doctor's increasing moodiness. In this function, he's really pretty essential to the show, or it will get increasingly dark. Amy is a really fun, spunky character as well, and Karen Gillan is... really really hot. I'm really glad I don't have to stare at Billie Piper anymore. I'm really not looking forward at all to Rory and Amy getting replaced, I think they're two of the best parts of the new turn the series has taken since Tennant left.
Last night's episode was pretty cool, I'm excited for the new season.

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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2012, 12:07:54 PM »
I saw part of one show..... soap opera bleh
shuff if you watched the whole series there's very few episodes that are soap opera like
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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2012, 01:20:10 PM »
Amy and Rory are going to be replaced by Oswin (Jenna Louise Coleman) halfway through the season.  :aok

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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2012, 03:04:57 PM »
the only problem with this,is that matt smiths doctor has a "darkness" about him. david tennant's doctor wasn't this way, and i don't think would've pulled it off.

Thats a lot of the writing, I think. I don't feel like Matt Smith is just an inherently darker actor. However, I do agree that the most recent doctor does have a bit of that feel to him. But the point is that Smith has better writing, but despite the slightly inferior dialogue, Tennant is still seen by many as a better doctor.

And in my mind, the biggest improvment that could have been made to Tennant's dialogue would have been to throw more humor into it, like our current doctor has. I just love the custard and fish sticks bit, and can see Tennant doing a better job with it.


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while i love the special effects, part of what originally drew me to dr. who, was the "cheesiness" of the crappy special effects back in the 70's. it was cool to see the weeping angels move, but the first weeping angel episode was much much better, as it scared you with what you DIDN'T see, rather then what you did. this(to me anyway) harkens back to the old horror, or mystery/suspense movies.

IDK, I haven't seen a whole lot of the earlier Dr. Who's. I've been meaning to watch, but just haven't gotten around do it. Might see some of what you're talking about, might not. Everyone's different; my aunt happens to have an enfatuation with anything Disney that I just don't understand, but it doesn't mean its not there.
 

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rory's a little more bad arsed than you think. he's more of an "accidental" hero. i think they needed to bring him in, considering that amy's the dr's mother in law.
I'm fine with Rory. He adds to both the comedy, and the plot. And yes, Amy being the dr's mother in law without Rory being in the story would have been a bit wierd.


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i don't think they really say this. it's more like he hates war, and having to use weapons, but he will use them......and he will fubar you if you piss him off.

Thats true to a certian extent, I would say. However, Eccleston's doctor portrayed more of the darkness you're talking about with Smith, I think. "Dalek" was really just an amazing episode, both because it brought back the Daleks, and because we got to see the Doctor totally lose his cool.
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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2012, 03:43:47 PM »
Eccleston's Doctor always seemed like he was about one nudge away from hopping in the tardis and going back to wipe out a species before it even evolved. He just had that "I'm smiling to force down the urge to kill you" vibe to him.
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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2012, 04:14:02 PM »
shuff if you watched the whole series there's very few episodes that are soap opera like

Evidently it is only soap opera like when I happen to pass by the channel it may be on. Then again my viewing bar is evidently raised in my older age ot TV as a whole has gone to the dogs..... case in point, the mad men and breaking bad. Two piss poor shows that evicently someone likes.
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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2012, 04:50:08 PM »
personally I liked it when Daleks exterminated people at will rather than having these long drawn out chats and having the aim of a typical AH er.  

It would have been a good end to see Rory and Amy get zapped.  These writers get paid how much???    :noid
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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2012, 07:39:21 PM »
Can you ever just let people like things that you don't Shuffler, or do you always have to have something negative to say instead of, I dunno, just closing the thread without commenting or not clicking on it if you know from the title that it's something you don't like?

FFS, is your life that miserable that you have to spend all of your time lurking around the forums, looking for a chance to complain about everything that you don't like? Do you even actually play the game, because for years all I've seen you do is complain and gripe on the forums.

Get a damn life.
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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2012, 07:50:08 PM »
don't blink.

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« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2012, 08:33:36 PM »
don't blink.

Don't blink. Blink and you're dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don't turn your back. Don't look away. And don't blink. Good Luck.
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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2012, 08:38:53 PM »
I first started watching it in the William Hartnell era, my favorite was always Jon Pertwee though he added that bit of fun to the role.
Never watched it much after Tom Baker but my son is now a big fan of the show.

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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2012, 08:42:34 PM »
personally I liked it when Daleks exterminated people at will rather than having these long drawn out chats and having the aim of a typical AH er.  

It would have been a good end to see Rory and Amy get zapped.  These writers get paid how much???    :noid

Agreed. They always go on about how deadly the Daleks are, but I guarantee their on-screen kill count is less than 100 in all the new seasons put together.

I mean the damn Sontarans probably have more on-screen kills, and they only showed up as a major component of a single episode.
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Re: Dr. Who
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2012, 08:47:30 PM »
Agreed. They always go on about how deadly the Daleks are, but I guarantee their on-screen kill count is less than 100 in all the new seasons put together.

I mean the damn Sontarans probably have more on-screen kills, and they only showed up as a major component of a single episode.

 they kilt a lot of germans in 1941 england.  :aok
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