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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #210 on: January 28, 2013, 11:07:37 AM »
skuzzy did you ever considered running an ingame hardware poll to see what is the average computer used these days for aces high? I'm thinking 64bits version   :angel:
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #211 on: January 28, 2013, 11:11:44 AM »
No poll needed, really.

It will not help Aces High much at all.  Resource usage is pretty much fixed, regardless.  It changes nothing for the video card.

I am sure there will be a time when it makes sense to move to 64 bit.  Right now, it really does not make sense.  It is not as simple as flipping a flag on the compiler.  It will require quite a bit code work to migrate to 64 bit.
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #212 on: January 28, 2013, 06:31:56 PM »
No poll needed, really.

It will not help Aces High much at all.  Resource usage is pretty much fixed, regardless.  It changes nothing for the video card.

I am sure there will be a time when it makes sense to move to 64 bit.  Right now, it really does not make sense.  It is not as simple as flipping a flag on the compiler.  It will require quite a bit code work to migrate to 64 bit.

Ive tried everything now.  Is there a software program that is shareware that you can run to manage your processes while you play?  I really don't want to learn what each process is and then turn them all off, lmao!
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #213 on: January 28, 2013, 07:15:40 PM »
Oh...how much of a resource pig is iTunes running on a machine?
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #214 on: January 28, 2013, 07:23:59 PM »
You do not want anything Apple or anything Adobe or anything Intuit running on your computer when you play.

AlacrityPC is a great place to start.
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #215 on: January 28, 2013, 08:39:32 PM »
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #216 on: January 29, 2013, 08:45:06 AM »
iTunes is one of the worst.  Anything from Apple for Windows is bad.  Think about it.  Why would Apple do anything nice for Windows?

iTunes eats resources like a six year old would chew through a candy store.  It will cause stutters in frame rates, impede network connections to the arenas, and cause rampant and errant disk activity which causes a host of other problems.

Running the Windows Aero desktop is also a resource problem.

If you have anything from Norton, McAfee, Intuit, Roxio, Apple, Adobe, and probably more, then you are sacrificing resources that should not be sacrificed.

NOTE:  You can kill most of the Adobe things, but the others are married to the operating system once they are installed.
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #217 on: January 29, 2013, 09:00:00 AM »
iTunes is one of the worst.  Anything from Apple for Windows is bad.  Think about it.  Why would Apple do anything nice for Windows?

iTunes eats resources like a six year old would chew through a candy store.  It will cause stutters in frame rates, impede network connections to the arenas, and cause rampant and errant disk activity which causes a host of other problems.

Running the Windows Aero desktop is also a resource problem.

If you have anything from Norton, McAfee, Intuit, Roxio, Apple, Adobe, and probably more, then you are sacrificing resources that should not be sacrificed.

NOTE:  You can kill most of the Adobe things, but the others are married to the operating system once they are installed.

Ok.  Here's a plan.  New SSD that only has Windows and the game loaded.  I could set the bios to let me choose which drive to boot right?  Can't be that hard.  Then, when the wife and kids wanna jump on they just reboot to "their" system.  That would be clean right?  Essentially 120 bucks solves my problem....for the most part.
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #218 on: January 29, 2013, 09:13:34 AM »
@changeup  Process Lassoo is a great process manager.  I have two truly speed critical apps that I use, one being AH and the other being voice dictation.  PL automatically sets them to realtime priority when they run.  If that doesn't work for you, use gaming mode and it will give AH all system resources automatically.

And it's ten bucks!

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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #219 on: January 29, 2013, 09:40:43 AM »
@changeup  Process Lassoo is a great process manager.  I have two truly speed critical apps that I use, one being AH and the other being voice dictation.  PL automatically sets them to realtime priority when they run.  If that doesn't work for you, use gaming mode and it will give AH all system resources automatically.

And it's ten bucks!

I tried Lasso and it didn't help much.  See, I think my kiddos load crap when they go to gaming sites that I never know is there.  Lasso is great but it still didn't maximize the system.  In fact, I saw no real difference.  Now, I used the freeware, not the paid version.  Still I'd like to try a small SSD on my system.  Windows gives every component in my system a 7.9 except the HD...which turns in a 5.4.

My case has hot swap HD bays on top.  I don't even have to install the new drive.  I can tell the bios to look at the swap bay and if there's no HD in it, move on to the SATA 6 drive.  I just have to believe that an SSD drive with windows, video card drivers, and the game only would be about as unencumbered as you can get, wouldn't you?
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #220 on: January 29, 2013, 12:35:05 PM »
A dedicated hard disk just for gaming is a good idea indeed. Speaking about AH, an SSD doesn't make a significant difference, though. It would make windows load faster, but from personal experience the boot time can be pre-emptively used to avoid having to go for a leak during gameplay.
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #221 on: January 29, 2013, 12:41:44 PM »
A dedicated hard disk just for gaming is a good idea indeed. Speaking about AH, an SSD doesn't make a significant difference, though. It would make windows load faster, but from personal experience the boot time can be pre-emptively used to avoid having to go for a leak during gameplay.

Easyest is to put the computer to sleep so it can wake up in a couple of seconds. Especially Win8 wakes up almost mac-like.
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #222 on: January 29, 2013, 01:14:23 PM »
Never allow the computer, or parts of it, to sleep under Windows 7, and earlier.  I have not tested Windows 8 yet, but all previous versions of Windows have had issues with the 'sleep' mode.

Just FYI.
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #223 on: January 29, 2013, 01:18:26 PM »
Never allow the computer, or parts of it, to sleep under Windows 7, and earlier.  I have not tested Windows 8 yet, but all previous versions of Windows have had issues with the 'sleep' mode.

Just FYI.
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Re: Can Anyone Run MAX Everything?
« Reply #224 on: January 29, 2013, 01:23:38 PM »
Oh man, I love you for that!  :salute

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