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Offline nrshida

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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #195 on: September 11, 2012, 08:19:03 AM »
I never said they are the "evil wrongdoers" of WW2..
Those are YOUR words, do not attribute them to me..
Are you stupid or what?

I did not attribute them to you now did I? Only the first sentence was directed at you, the second a general observation.

Do you think I'm stupid?




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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #196 on: September 11, 2012, 08:40:04 AM »
I did not attribute them to you now did I? Only the first sentence was directed at you, the second a general observation.

Do you think I'm stupid?






The whole comment was addressed to me.. There ya go..
And my point is, at times they HAVE BEEN morbidly stupid, and
Oppressive upon their own rank and file.. Callous to their loss..

And again, I never said this attitude was exclusively British..
Plenty to go around.. But I don't freak out trying to deny it either!

Stupid??? stupid is trying to deny "Reality", because it doesn't fit
in their nice comfortable viewpoint..   

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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #197 on: September 11, 2012, 09:34:04 AM »
Taking bets on how much longer til RngFndr gets a PNG.

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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #198 on: September 11, 2012, 09:53:44 AM »
 :salute well the tread was hijacked in a major way. all of this is hind sight anyway. but i thank god that we all as free thinking people from free country's with the right to
any opinion that we have. if we have an opinion dont be affeard to state it.  :salute to all vets and a grand aprecation for there sacrifice for keeping our freedoms alive. to be able to write in goood conscience about anything. to tell you the truth we as a free loving nations cant really say enough about that. freedom to speak your minds without any fear of reprisals. all free nations should have this freedom. becuase it has been paid for with the blood of dead and alive soldiers, freedom fighters, to all the brave people who have made those sacifices. just something to keep in mind and remember opinions and like but holes everybody has one. as far as this tread goes look at the facts and make your own conclutions. i rambled on enough  :salute all
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Offline nrshida

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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #199 on: September 11, 2012, 10:15:42 AM »
The whole comment was addressed to me.. There ya go..
And my point is, at times they HAVE BEEN morbidly stupid, and
Oppressive upon their own rank and file.. Callous to their loss..

And again, I never said this attitude was exclusively British..
Plenty to go around.. But I don't freak out trying to deny it either!

Stupid??? stupid is trying to deny "Reality", because it doesn't fit
in their nice comfortable viewpoint..   

This is very strange. I'm almost 100% sure I wrote that message and would therefore know better than you what I meant? Why do you suppose I put the second comment on a second line? Well nevermind, a misunderstanding i'm sure.

Regarding your second point: don't you think it's a bit late in the day to be claiming you haven't been Brit bashing right from the start in this thread by claiming stupidity is pan-cultural and commonplace? An axiom i'm sure all well balanced & experienced people would readily accept anyway.

This point is hardly consistant with your earlier posts is it?

And regarding your last point, you aren't defining stupidity by observing people have come to different conclusions and beliefs than you.

Trying to insult people that don't agree with your xenophobic and insulting views is a great insight into your mentality.
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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #200 on: September 11, 2012, 10:29:30 AM »
So we are all agreed then?
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Offline MiloMorai

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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #201 on: September 11, 2012, 10:45:31 AM »
Coercion = Force..

Sorry that it may not fit in your view of things..
But it was standard practice, nevertheless..

Yes be sure, the airmen were marched out to their a/c at bayonet point.

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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #202 on: September 11, 2012, 11:48:08 AM »
This is very strange. I'm almost 100% sure I wrote that message and would therefore know better than you what I meant? Why do you suppose I put the second comment on a second line? Well nevermind, a misunderstanding i'm sure.

Regarding your second point: don't you think it's a bit late in the day to be claiming you haven't been Brit bashing right from the start in this thread by claiming stupidity is pan-cultural and commonplace? An axiom i'm sure all well balanced & experienced people would readily accept anyway.

This point is hardly consistant with your earlier posts is it?

And regarding your last point, you aren't defining stupidity by observing people have come to different conclusions and beliefs than you.

Trying to insult people that don't agree with your xenophobic and insulting views is a great insight into your mentality.

Page 2, post 13,..
I said, "Truly, he isn't the only general who did that in the war, lots of others.."

And you fall back on more personal attacks, saying I am "Xenophobic" ,  Ooh :lol 

More of the that standard canned nonsense..
Wow, you must have swallowed the whole can huh???

Sorry, but I have real work $$$$$ to do..
I'll be back later..

Offline nrshida

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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #203 on: September 11, 2012, 12:42:33 PM »
Yes you are right, I apologise, I missed this line concealed as it was under the glory hunting monkey comment.

So what you're saying is that George Patton was a glory hunting monkey too, for example and you're not xenophobic at all?
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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #204 on: September 11, 2012, 04:37:49 PM »
Page 2, post 13,..
I said, "Truly, he isn't the only general who did that in the war, lots of others.."

And you fall back on more personal attacks, saying I am "Xenophobic" ,  Ooh :lol 

More of the that standard canned nonsense..
Wow, you must have swallowed the whole can huh???

Sorry, but I have real work $$$$$ to do..
I'll be back later..

This is Post 13 by Plawranc"

"Before we go on a huge "British bashing" campaign.

I would just like to say that the British actually did link up with both 101 and 82nd using one road using British Infantry and Armor. And TOOK Arnhem bridge initially and prevented them from laying DEMO on it. All the while with bad radio equipment and little support.

German resistance was heavy, VERY heavy. Crack Panzer divisions being reformed from the Russian front. SS Divisions. The whole damn thing. Not to mention 2 field Marshals and 3 generals all of which with both experience and close relations with Hitler allowing for preferential treatment in terms of support from Germany.

I would hardly call it "Brits being cocky". Britain was perhaps arrogant, but even then, if it HAD been old men and children.... it would have worked. I think that German resistance played more of a role than Britains arrogance." 

Your 1st post in this thread was #19.

"Battle was lost before it even started..

Yes there was British Arrogance of the same kind that
resulted in the Somme Slaughter..

Not listening to the intel on the ground, and the whole Radio
Commo botch job, just sealed the deal.. 

Both SS Hohenstoufen and Frundsberg were in the area Refitting..
They landed right on top of them.. Case closed..

I will say, they did very well gtting as far as they did.. But
overall, this was like the Germ"an Ardennes Offensive..
Doomed from the start!
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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #205 on: September 12, 2012, 07:18:48 AM »
RngFndr

Your maturity level matches your IQ.
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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #206 on: September 12, 2012, 08:34:32 AM »
So, is the horse dead, or should I kick it some more???

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« Reply #207 on: September 12, 2012, 09:07:35 AM »
 :rofl

Lets talk about Churchill instead  :)
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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #208 on: September 12, 2012, 09:11:15 AM »
:rofl

Lets talk about Churchill instead  :)

Is that a pie?  And sertiously there are some things that should'nt be  threadjacked or be allowed to degrade into a purse fight.
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Re: Operation Market Garden
« Reply #209 on: September 12, 2012, 09:22:22 AM »
How are you today Nat? :)
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