An end to the Puffy ack

[TWC_Angel]

I wonder why the Germans didn't take this CV ack and move it to protect their factories?

Wut?  

If it was so effective in real life.

I'm sorry sir, but are you real?

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[Citabria]

Delete for of topic

[hitech]

This.  x10.  Plus tax.  There is something wrong with the number of instant fighter kills from puffy.

But please, continue on with the Herp Derp on how many 88 gunners dropped shells into single engine fighter cockpits...

TONS of fighters were lost to anti-aircraft fire, the question is how many of them were lost to 20mm/37mm/40mm vs the really big stuff that goes boom.

If we were to give the 1 player 50 guns to fire at one time and the ability to set the size of a box where they fire, what do you think the outcome would be?

ANd yes you are 100% correct

There is something wrong with the number of instant fighter kills from puffy.

. And that is the number they quote is inaccurate because people tend to not really notice the ack until they are hit. And then claim it was a first hit.

HiTech

[Volron]

If we were to give the 1 player 50 guns to fire at one time and the ability to set the size of a box where they fire, what do you think the outcome would be?

ANd yes you are 100% correct  . And that is the number they quote is inaccurate because people tend to not really notice the ack until they are hit. And then claim it was a first hit.

HiTech

Hmm....I wouldn't mind having command of 50 guns.   The outcome however, would be bad for gameplay.


Some folks are saying the ack isn't realistic.  Maybe for one day, you should bump it up to the realism they are "wishing" for.   Just one day.

[titanic3]

If we were to give the 1 player 50 guns to fire at one time and the ability to set the size of a box where they fire, what do you think the outcome would be?
How bout just 5 (large field), 3 (medium field), 2 (small field), 1 (GV), each on a field? All of them manually fused, like the 88mms. For the CVs auto fuse, give each player 2 or 3. Then remove AI puffy completely.

ANd yes you are 100% correct  . And that is the number they quote is inaccurate because people tend to not really notice the ack until they are hit. And then claim it was a first hit.
Dogfighting someone and then accidentally popping the 3K magic line only to get pwned by puffy 1 second later isn't fun.
HiTech

[mthrockmor]

I'm not positive though I believe it has recently been remodeled. For a while there the very first indication a CV wasaround was a suddenly burst of oil on the windscreen. That happened many times and as likely as winning the lottery. They seem to have fixed that.

Boo

[Ack-Ack]

TONS of fighters were lost to anti-aircraft fire, the question is how many of them were lost to 20mm/37mm/40mm vs the really big stuff that goes boom.

Quite a bit.  Just ask any Allied pilot that had to attack German/Japanese airfields.

ack-ack

[FTJR]

I just got done by the ack from a fleet that I thought I was far enough away from. I reviewed the film, and this is what I saw from 3 different views. I thought it was one ping, so I logged, but the film shows more than that. Make of it what you will.

http://youtu.be/rx4nusTPVqw

[Traveler]

I feel your pain, but I've learned to live with it, I too have died instantly from puffy ack.  I however would love to see it returned to the airfields,  I’m sure puffy was used to protect real airfields during WWII.  I also question that I can fly a group of bombers hand off, pulling no G’s directly to my drop point and not take any damage from puffy, but if I do it in a P38, fly hands off, not pulling any G’s the bird takes hits some fatal.  That’s just not right.  A group of bombers is taking up a lot more space , a lot more target area for the puffy to impact.  But my one single fighter, half the size of just one bomber is being hit twice as often.  Something appears to be wrong with that.  Just saying, it’s based on my experience, over the last 11 years or so.

[bustr]

If puffy ack batteries were reinstated at feilds, would it be like a stationairy CV?

1. - Would it be as dangerous to fighters as it is from CV's forcing most feild captures to become NOE hoards again?
2. - Would furballs become attackers from the next airfeild being limited to 3k under a 30,000 yard radius dome from the enemy airfeild? While defenders can climb to the moon over their feild befor moving out to furball?
3. - Would this mean the radar circle would also indicate the active puffy ack area?

Small caliber anitaircraft was the greatest danger to allied fighters. Not Heavy guns like our puffy ack. Heavy guns could not be brought to bare in a timely fashion to lead low flying fast small targets like allied fighters. Allied fighters were never designed to fly through a hail of small caliber ack and survive repeated hits as their primairy purpose. If anything in our game, Hitech is being kind to us with the unusual limited numbers of small caliber ack positions by WW2 standards protecting such important objects to winning the war.

This is discussed in the following document from the 8th Air Force after WW2.

Light, intense and accurate: U.S. Eighth A.F. strategic fighters versus German flak in the ETO.

http://cgsc.cdmhost.com/utils/getfile/collection/p4013coll8/id/2806/filename/2786.PDF

[smoe]

First rule of puffy ack is: don't fly into puffy ack