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Offline tuton25

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Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« on: September 16, 2012, 02:24:26 PM »
wing tanks would be connected....
other than that would make things easy
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2012, 02:50:36 PM »
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2012, 02:54:02 PM »
The way fuel is loaded, with few exceptions such as the rear tank in the P-51, has far, far more effect in people's minds than it actually has on the handling of the aircraft in the game.  It is a greatly exaggerated explanation/excuse for why somebody won or lost.
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2012, 03:14:45 PM »
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fill and drain them in the historical order, and no drop tanks without 100% internal :aok
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2012, 03:35:44 PM »
The mossie is one that is greatly effected my the fuel tanks
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2012, 03:36:16 PM »
The mossie is one that is greatly effected my the fuel tanks
Nope.  People claim it is, but that is false.
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2012, 04:16:52 PM »
I think the difference of 400 lbs between 3/4 and 1/2 and again at 1/4 fuel makes a pretty big difference in the pony Karnak.

In this case I think you have it backwards by discounting the advantage you took into combat you will 'feel' like a better stick than you are.  :devil
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2012, 04:48:30 PM »
I think the difference of 400 lbs between 3/4 and 1/2 and again at 1/4 fuel makes a pretty big difference in the pony Karnak.
That isn't what is being talked about here though.  They are talking about how the fuel is loaded into the tanks.  The Pony is one of the few that have a tank where it does matter, namely the rear tank having more than 50% full introduces significant instability to the Pony.

Nobody is talking about the sheer weight differences of taking 25%, 50%, 75% or 100% fuel.  The Mossie VI I like to fly is carrying about 3500lbs of fuel if you take 100% fuel, so of course selecting 50% has a noticeable effect.  However which tanks that 50% is loaded into and in what ratios makes almost no difference at all.
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2012, 05:22:41 PM »
That isn't what is being talked about here though.  They are talking about how the fuel is loaded into the tanks.  The Pony is one of the few that have a tank where it does matter, namely the rear tank having more than 50% full introduces significant instability to the Pony.

Nobody is talking about the sheer weight differences of taking 25%, 50%, 75% or 100% fuel.  The Mossie VI I like to fly is carrying about 3500lbs of fuel if you take 100% fuel, so of course selecting 50% has a noticeable effect.  However which tanks that 50% is loaded into and in what ratios makes almost no difference at all.

it does in some airplanes where the wings are the last tanks to be emptied and the center/rear is the first to go.  that's why a lot of pilots will manually empty partially or fully the wings so it can turn easier one way or the other depending on the airplane.


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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2012, 05:48:31 PM »
it does in some airplanes where the wings are the last tanks to be emptied and the center/rear is the first to go.  that's why a lot of pilots will manually empty partially or fully the wings so it can turn easier one way or the other depending on the airplane.


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thats how the F4U-1A hog is I empty the wing tanks first before anything else it turns much easier without them dang wingtanks full
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2012, 06:00:58 PM »
it does in some airplanes where the wings are the last tanks to be emptied and the center/rear is the first to go.  that's why a lot of pilots will manually empty partially or fully the wings so it can turn easier one way or the other depending on the airplane.


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No, it really doesn't.  Players claim it does, but it really doesn't.

There are a few exceptions, well, at least one exception, but I see it claimed for many aircraft in which it does not make a difference.  Things like the C.205 and Mosquito Mk VI are claimed to be sensitive to it, but they really aren't.

thats how the F4U-1A hog is I empty the wing tanks first before anything else it turns much easier without them dang wingtanks full
Nope.  It should accelerate into a roll slightly faster, but that is all.

Think about it.  How would that help it turn?  The weight doesn't change and the wing tanks are near the center of gravity.
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2012, 06:27:40 PM »
That isn't what is being talked about here though.  They are talking about how the fuel is loaded into the tanks.  The Pony is one of the few that have a tank where it does matter, namely the rear tank having more than 50% full introduces significant instability to the Pony.

Nobody is talking about the sheer weight differences of taking 25%, 50%, 75% or 100% fuel.  The Mossie VI I like to fly is carrying about 3500lbs of fuel if you take 100% fuel, so of course selecting 50% has a noticeable effect.  However which tanks that 50% is loaded into and in what ratios makes almost no difference at all.

Its not that I dont disagree with you . . . hehe . . . but how you could tell what this fellow was meaning in his contribution I cant tell. And so I had to clear up what I took away from what you meant.  :devil

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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2012, 08:46:01 PM »
No, it really doesn't.  Players claim it does, but it really doesn't.

There are a few exceptions, well, at least one exception, but I see it claimed for many aircraft in which it does not make a difference.  Things like the C.205 and Mosquito Mk VI are claimed to be sensitive to it, but they really aren't.
Nope.  It should accelerate into a roll slightly faster, but that is all.

Think about it.  How would that help it turn?  The weight doesn't change and the wing tanks are near the center of gravity.
there would be less weight think about it.......... ;)
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2012, 09:02:53 PM »
Absolutely nothing wrong with fuel burn we have now. If you can't manage to fly with 50% gas anyway, what difference will it make switching which tanks get the gas? Absolutely nothing.

Honestly I used to drain "rear" tank of a 190A would make a big difference, or Top or Bottom of tanks in Spitfire, in reality you arn't gaining anything from it - people assume they do because they have some spotted luck with it.
Fast forward 6 years later - I haven't messed with draining my tanks period, only in certain aircraft like the F4u - only because the main tank seems to always get hit, so I leave a little gas in my wings so I can make it home in case I get hit.




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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2012, 09:51:44 PM »
Absolutely nothing wrong with fuel burn we have now. If you can't manage to fly with 50% gas anyway, what difference will it make switching which tanks get the gas? Absolutely nothing.

Honestly I used to drain "rear" tank of a 190A would make a big difference, or Top or Bottom of tanks in Spitfire, in reality you arn't gaining anything from it - people assume they do because they have some spotted luck with it.
Fast forward 6 years later - I haven't messed with draining my tanks period, only in certain aircraft like the F4u - only because the main tank seems to always get hit, so I leave a little gas in my wings so I can make it home in case I get hit.


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