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Offline Karnak

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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2012, 10:03:22 PM »
there would be less weight think about it.......... ;)
No, there would not be.  If you burn 50 gallons of fuel to get to the fight you burn 50 gallons.  Burning it from the wings doesn't make you burn 55 gallons instead.
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2012, 01:33:15 AM »
That F4U LOVES to draw bullets to it's main tank.  Like there is a bullet magnet... :noid

The bullet magnet fitted to the F4 is a smaller and less powerful version of the uber bullet magnet attached to the front of 262 engines :old:
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2012, 01:36:38 AM »
The bullet magnet fitted to the F4 is a smaller and less powerful version of the uber bullet magnet attached to the front of 262 engines :old:

...or the magnet that is attached to the PILOT in a 190 F8... :bhead
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2012, 05:18:12 AM »
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fill and drain them in the historical order, and no drop tanks without 100% internal :aok
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2012, 06:15:35 AM »
No, there would not be.  If you burn 50 gallons of fuel to get to the fight you burn 50 gallons.  Burning it from the wings doesn't make you burn 55 gallons instead.
its still less weigth no matter the way you look at it you burn the tanks your lighter thus meaning more mavurable thus meaning you can stay alive longer and get more kills...........lets do some math here a gallon weigths 8lbs whats 8x50 karnak....................... ..400lbs your 400lbs lighter than you were when you took off I'd rather be 400lbs lighter when I engage the target than 400lbs heavier
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2012, 07:14:45 AM »
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2012, 08:58:26 AM »
its still less weigth no matter the way you look at it you burn the tanks your lighter thus meaning more mavurable thus meaning you can stay alive longer and get more kills...........lets do some math here a gallon weigths 8lbs whats 8x50 karnak....................... ..400lbs your 400lbs lighter than you were when you took off I'd rather be 400lbs lighter when I engage the target than 400lbs heavier

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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2012, 09:02:21 AM »
its still less weigth no matter the way you look at it you burn the tanks your lighter thus meaning more mavurable thus meaning you can stay alive longer and get more kills...........lets do some math here a gallon weigths 8lbs whats 8x50 karnak....................... ..400lbs your 400lbs lighter than you were when you took off I'd rather be 400lbs lighter when I engage the target than 400lbs heavier
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Try again.

Your initial claim was that the F4U would turn better if you burned the fuel from the wing tanks instead of the main tank and had nothing to do with the total taken at the start.  You have changed your argument and are now talking about taking less fuel at the start and claiming my point disproving your first claim has been refuted, but my argument had nothing to do with your second argument.
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2012, 09:45:04 AM »
its still less weigth no matter the way you look at it you burn the tanks your lighter thus meaning more mavurable thus meaning you can stay alive longer and get more kills...........lets do some math here a gallon weigths 8lbs whats 8x50 karnak....................... ..400lbs your 400lbs lighter than you were when you took off I'd rather be 400lbs lighter when I engage the target than 400lbs heavier
Avgas is 6lb a gallon.

And you may wish to read Karnaks post.  All he is saying is that it dosn't make much difference where you loose your "400lb" from, of course it matters that you lost it.

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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2012, 10:19:55 AM »
I think where this topic went horribly off course, and this is what eric19 was initally trying to say: in the case of the F4u-1a the fuel tanks are filled like this:
25% of gas you have half your main tank filled.
50% of gas you have 3/4 of your main tank filled.
75% of gas you have 1/4 of your wing tanks filled, your main tank is full.
100% of gas you have 100% of wing tanks filled and your main tank is full.

What he wants to do is instead of taking 50% of gas in your main tank initially, to be able to move that 50% to wing tanks.. I think is what he is trying to ask.
Which is why I am totally confused because as he pointed out - he wants to be able to move fuel around, but if you look above ^ the main fuel tank gets filled first before the wings, I think he's confusing with the wing tanks being filled before teh main tank.

Here's his comment:
thats how the F4U-1A hog is I empty the wing tanks first before anything else it turns much easier without them dang wingtanks full

Simply taking way to much fuel for such a short fight, you need to learn throttle control and take far less gas, I never take more then 75% in an F4u-1a or 100% only in a F4u-4.
Only reason I take 75% and NO drop tank in an F4u-1a is because if the main tank gets hit you run empty, I like to leave a little gas in the wing tanks just in case - in the f4u-4 you don't have that option with only one Main Tank.
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2012, 10:31:30 AM »
doesnt the 1A empty the wing tanks before the main tank by default anyway? :headscratch:
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2012, 11:46:06 AM »
I'd love to see someone fill up only one side of the airplane :lol that would be way out of cg :lol

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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2012, 02:25:39 PM »
I'd love to see someone fill up only one side of the airplane :lol that would be way out of cg :lol

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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2012, 02:34:37 PM »
Reminds me of a few years back I seen a video of a Crane trying to crawl up onto a trailer, it was a massive crane and they used some kind of military trailer for it. Except the fact the trailer was on a slight incline, and the weight of the monster tipped the trailer and the crane on its side.
Makes it even funnier the crane was specially made some kind of custom super crane and just out of the factory, hate to be the poor guy who got in trouble for that.
Can't remember if it was in Russian or not, but it wasn't english.

Probably one of the millions of youtube "Fail" videos, heh.
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Re: Custom fuel loadout for each tank
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2012, 04:56:46 PM »
I think where this topic went horribly off course, and this is what eric19 was initally trying to say: in the case of the F4u-1a the fuel tanks are filled like this:
25% of gas you have half your main tank filled.
50% of gas you have 3/4 of your main tank filled.
75% of gas you have 1/4 of your wing tanks filled, your main tank is full.
100% of gas you have 100% of wing tanks filled and your main tank is full.

What he wants to do is instead of taking 50% of gas in your main tank initially, to be able to move that 50% to wing tanks.. I think is what he is trying to ask.
Which is why I am totally confused because as he pointed out - he wants to be able to move fuel around, but if you look above ^ the main fuel tank gets filled first before the wings, I think he's confusing with the wing tanks being filled before teh main tank.

Here's his comment:
thats how the F4U-1A hog is I empty the wing tanks first before anything else it turns much easier without them dang wingtanks full

Simply taking way to much fuel for such a short fight, you need to learn throttle control and take far less gas, I never take more then 75% in an F4u-1a or 100% only in a F4u-4.
Only reason I take 75% and NO drop tank in an F4u-1a is because if the main tank gets hit you run empty, I like to leave a little gas in the wing tanks just in case - in the f4u-4 you don't have that option with only one Main Tank.

I don't normally take more than 75 unless I'm doing high cap over a cv which in that case my point is irrelevent sorry for confusing you butcher............I do try to manage my fuel but sometimes I just screw it all up oh and thanks for the AV gas there HT I had no idea it was lighter than regular gallons or whatever the word I'm looking for................
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