Author Topic: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay  (Read 1250 times)

Offline EagleOne

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 49
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2012, 07:07:02 AM »
Of course they would cry for free speech and free media...not

Offline MarineUS

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2679
      • Imperial Legion
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2012, 04:58:28 PM »
*sigh* It's because it was live footage of someone offing themselves.

For "modern" America it's too violent and offends a lot of people. They would have said the guy killed himself, just not shown it.

---

If you want to watch people die, there are plenty of websites where you can watch suicides, beheadings, and all that other good stuff. I'm personally OK without seeing someone die on my television. Hearing about it is enough.
Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

HiTech

Offline Nathan60

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4573
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2012, 05:03:18 PM »
*sigh* It's because it was live footage of someone offing themselves.

For "modern" America it's too violent and offends a lot of people. They would have said the guy killed himself, just not shown it.

---

If you want to watch people die, there are plenty of websites where you can watch suicides, beheadings, and all that other good stuff. I'm personally OK without seeing someone die on my television. Hearing about it is enough.
+1 Fox dont have to show the chase in the first place(and we dont have to watch it), but I dont see it as a bad thing that they dont want to show a nip otr a guy offing himself when the possibility a child can walk into the room at the wrong moment.
HamHawk
Wing III-- Pigs on The Wing
FSO--JG54
CHUGGA-CHUGGA, CHOO-CHOO
Pigs go wing deep

Offline Grayeagle

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1487
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2012, 07:34:00 PM »
On drugs:
People I useda call my friends got 'into' drugs .. I learned a clean break is best.
They become people you really do not want to have in your home.
Around your children, family, and yourself.
There was a time I kept a 12 guage close by just for that reason.

The hard drugs have changed since LSD, and yet any drug that screws up your head
and alters your personality does so for *life* .. paranoia, stupidity, lack of common sense..
..inappropriate behaviour is a massive understatement.
I cannot stand to have a druggie who used to be a friend anywhere near anyone I care for.

But .. that's just me, after havin a 'friend' bring a gun into my house and talk trash to me ..
He was wise enough to leave when I told him to
.. I am sure to this day he has no idea how close he came to dyin right there.

On the News:
I haven't watched the pap they serve up for 'news' for decades.. except on rare occasions.
Watched CNN's coverage of the first strikes into Baghdad.
Also saw a re-run of Sad Sacks minister denying tanks in Baghdad with M1's rollin across the background ..that was classic.
Caught the two towers live .. everyone at Papyrus Racing watched as it happened.

I am just not interested in watching the 'who's dead and who's dead near you' show that 'news' has become.
But .. that's just me.

-Frank aka GE
'The better I shoot ..the less I have to manuever'
-GE

Offline MrMeanie

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 709
71 "Eagle" Squadron RAF

Offline MrRiplEy[H]

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11633
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2012, 05:09:36 AM »

.. I am sure to this day he has no idea how close he came to dyin right there.

I'm sure. But I'm sure you weren't either :)
Definiteness of purpose is the starting point of all achievement. –W. Clement Stone

Offline VonMessa

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11922
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2012, 11:12:55 AM »
What are you in here for?

Are you in here for drugs.  I'm in here for drugs...



Braümeister und Schmutziger Hund von JG11


We are all here because we are not all there.

Offline Rob52240

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3770
      • My AH Films
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2012, 11:29:32 AM »
On drugs:
People I useda call my friends got 'into' drugs .. I learned a clean break is best.
They become people you really do not want to have in your home.
Around your children, family, and yourself.
There was a time I kept a 12 guage close by just for that reason.

The hard drugs have changed since LSD, and yet any drug that screws up your head
and alters your personality does so for *life* .. paranoia, stupidity, lack of common sense..
..inappropriate behaviour is a massive understatement.
I cannot stand to have a druggie who used to be a friend anywhere near anyone I care for.

But .. that's just me, after havin a 'friend' bring a gun into my house and talk trash to me ..
He was wise enough to leave when I told him to
.. I am sure to this day he has no idea how close he came to dyin right there.

On the News:
I haven't watched the pap they serve up for 'news' for decades.. except on rare occasions.
Watched CNN's coverage of the first strikes into Baghdad.
Also saw a re-run of Sad Sacks minister denying tanks in Baghdad with M1's rollin across the background ..that was classic.
Caught the two towers live .. everyone at Papyrus Racing watched as it happened.

I am just not interested in watching the 'who's dead and who's dead near you' show that 'news' has become.
But .. that's just me.

-Frank aka GE

I couldn't disagree more, yet I find myself agreeing at the same time in regards to other drugs.  Namely opiates and meth.  While I am drug people by most standards, those are the only two drug  categories where I've seen people quickly make getting their fix their top priority in life.

I don't believe that LSD or other psychodelics are dangerous however I do believe they can prematurely bring about the onset of mental illness.
If I had a gun with 3 bullets and I was locked in a room with Bin Laden, Hitler, Saddam and Zipp...  I would shoot Zipp 3 times.

Offline sunfan1121

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2051
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2012, 12:04:16 PM »

I don't believe that LSD or other psychodelics are dangerous however I do believe they can prematurely bring about the onset of mental illness.
The medical evidence suggests the opposite. Alcoholics given LSD have a much higher rate of recovery, and MDMA is used to treat war veterans with PTSD.   
A drunk driver will run a stop sign. A stoned driver will stop until it turns green.

Offline Rob52240

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3770
      • My AH Films
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2012, 12:16:54 PM »
The medical evidence suggests the opposite. Alcoholics given LSD have a much higher rate of recovery, and MDMA is used to treat war veterans with PTSD.   

I've read this too.  My opinion is just that when it comes to bringing on mental illness.  "I've seen it happen" a few times with friends when I was younger.  I may not be correct because my mom planted the idea in my head after making me promise I'd never play with peyote.  Her first husband took a big dose of it and never stopped believing he was Jesus afterward.

I do see how LSD can be used to beat chemical dependency.  I can't think of a better way to make someone hit rock bottom than without the help of a head full of acid.

MDMA began gaining popularity in the late 70s thanks to some marriage counselors in Texas giving it to their patients.  It worked it's way into clubs immediately and was only banned after the DEA's top egg head did a study on it but intentionally used methamphetamine in his study.  He is no longer allowed to publish in academic journals.
If I had a gun with 3 bullets and I was locked in a room with Bin Laden, Hitler, Saddam and Zipp...  I would shoot Zipp 3 times.

Offline Maverick

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13919
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2012, 04:40:52 PM »
The medical evidence suggests the opposite. Alcoholics given LSD have a much higher rate of recovery, and MDMA is used to treat war veterans with PTSD.   

Source? Preferably peer reviewed and with supporting docs. Not arguing, but all you have posted is an unsupported claim.
DEFINITION OF A VETERAN
A Veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life."
Author Unknown

Offline Babalonian

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5817
      • Pigs on the Wing
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2012, 04:52:21 PM »
Fox News Car chase in Phoenix/Tonopah AZ ends in suicide 28 sept 2012
***** WARNING ***** GRAPHIC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkGphC5hxuM&bpctr=1348871889&bpctr=1348930033&bpctr=1348930039

Nothing new, seen more than one car chase end here in LA on a freeway overpass with a single self-inflicted shotgun "wound". 

You have to desensitise yourself and/or just stop caring to watch another idiot looking for attention and to harm/risk/kill others for their own selfish means.

As for "It's not the new channels fault" if they let is leak to the live stream, that is 200% bull.  See my first comment, it's been happening for a very long time, this will not be the first time a FOX subsidiary has righfuly earned their FCC fine/wammie.  Aparently, this fine/fee needs to be severely upped otherwise it would not repeatedly happen.

Sorry to anyone just now aware of this fact after witnessing it first hand.
-Babalon
"Let's light 'em up and see how they smoke."
POTW IIw Oink! - http://www.PigsOnTheWing.org

Wow, you guys need help.

Offline 100Coogn

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3925
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2012, 05:09:45 PM »
Ironically:

Fox News Caster Dies.
[Story]

I used to watch him every morning and evening.  He was very entertaining and made the 'news' somewhat enjoyable to watch, even though sometimes the news is hard to watch.
RIP Mr. Trager.  You are missed.

 :angel: Coogan :angel:

*Edit*:  Edited in case my words didn't come out right.  I know there are several people on here from Michigan that know of Mr. Trager and what an inspiration he was.  
            < :frown: >
« Last Edit: October 01, 2012, 05:15:38 PM by 100Coogn »
Quote
From Wiley: If you're hitting them after they drop, that's not defense, that is revenge.
Game Id's:
AHIII: Coogan
RDR2: Coogan_Bear
MSFS-2020: Coogan Bear

Offline sunfan1121

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2051
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2012, 06:03:38 PM »
Source? Preferably peer reviewed and with supporting docs. Not arguing, but all you have posted is an unsupported claim.
Quick google search. peer reviewed study's are out there if you have the time to find them.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2004887,00.html Article on the MDMA study.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57394097-10391704/lsd-should-be-considered-for-alcoholism-treatment-study-says/ LSD study
A drunk driver will run a stop sign. A stoned driver will stop until it turns green.

Offline Grayeagle

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1487
Re: Wow Drugs are bad mmkay
« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2012, 10:15:55 PM »
Mr Ripley:

The druggie in my home was in arms reach .. if he had drawn his 9mm I would have changed his priorities in far less than a heart beat.
Back in the day I *was* that fast and I still know the drill.

Thing about someone with a gun is.. they depend solely on it.
Thing about druggies are .. they are slow.
In my house with family present I have a low tolerance for BS.
Mr. Remington was available for wife and kids.
If a jerk is in arms reach ..he's mine.

If he's out of reach I will nod and agree right up until I am in arms reach or until Mr. Remington is available.

-Gray Eagle aka Frank
-just sayin (tm Pasha)
'The better I shoot ..the less I have to manuever'
-GE