Good Gaming and recreation PC.

[guncrasher]

thanks, I see he has cases and power supply stuff but does he put graphic cards and mother boards in aswell?

he has everything you need.  even if you decide to build it yourself contact him as he will guide you in the right direction.  I have bought parts from him and his systems are legendary for being top notch. 


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[JOACH1M]

he has everything you need.  even if you decide to build it yourself contact him as he will guide you in the right direction.  I have bought parts from him and his systems are legendary for being top notch. 


semp

Ok thanks sounds good!


Tundra that was a very helpful right up, I feel like I just learned alot! Lol 

[Gman]

No prob, just remember when you DO get your new system up and running to optimize/tweak it, and go through that Black Viper site's list of things to turn off.  With the SSD drive, you can move a lot of stuff off of it on to your Data drive, like music/picture folders etc, and do some little tweaks to help with its longevity and performance.  Shoot me a PM, or ask here, as I learned most of this stuff from reading guys like Skuzzy's, AckAck's, and Debrody's posts here. 

[JOACH1M]

No prob, just remember when you DO get your new system up and running to optimize/tweak it, and go through that Black Viper site's list of things to turn off.  With the SSD drive, you can move a lot of stuff off of it on to your Data drive, like music/picture folders etc, and do some little tweaks to help with its longevity and performance.  Shoot me a PM, or ask here, as I learned most of this stuff from reading guys like Skuzzy's, AckAck's, and Debrody's posts here. 

Thanks, that black viper site...I like the sounds of so basically I can transfer my AH files from my other PC to this new one!? That would be awesome!

[morfiend]

  Gman,


 I have the 7950,bought it instead of the 7970 on advice from a well trusted player who knows his stuff. I run a 1080p screen with it and it's rock steady at 59/60 frames.

  Jo could save some more cash with a 2700k cpu in the 1155 socket,will rum 3.9 on air stock with turbo boost or whatever they call the OC.

  Also look carefully at the PSU's,I'd stay away from anything from Antec but corsair,seasonic and the new xfx psu's are all made by the same manufactor, provided you choose the right series.

  I put my system together here in Canada for just over 1700$,I could get the same system today for less than $1500 since about 6 months have past!....



    

[Debrody]

Tundra migh be right, as the 7870 is the maximum what the Pictairn can give, and the 7950 is an artifically downclocked version of the Tahiti.

Expecting all theese radeons to reach 1030-1050MHz on stock voltage (do we even need to push them that far?), the 7950 is about half way between the 7870 and the 7970.
Also, i apologize, havent checked the prices on Newegg, the 7950 is almost as expensive as the 7970, in Hungary.

I would still say, if you save some on the components like no water cooling, etc, it would be possible to build a 7970 CF. Maybe not from 1500, but 1600.
I wouldnt touch the Kepler right now, as the simmilarly performing Nvidia models tends to be a little bit more expensive then their Ati counterparts, also the Ati is way better in the OpenCl (computing performance).

[save]

I have a new 7870 , old I7 930 OC'ed o 3.4gighz 12gig memory and 120gig SSD disk , big badsass heatsink , I never want to go to water-cooling, use big fan instead (140mm).


Startup time  is within 5 seconds of Win7 start.


I push 60 frames in 1920*1200 with everything  but shadows on in AH2, and its awesome in BF3, and is sufficient for War Thunder game.


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[cattb]

I just built something similat to gmans computer for around 900, ecept I have the case and operating system and cd/dvd player.

I used 2133 patriot memory. I paid a bit more , but wasnt that much.

If you get a SSD, get at least a 128gb.

build it yourself, you can do it.

Oh for a cpu cooler I used a 212 coolermaster i think. dropped temp by 8 to 10 degrees. They are 20.00 on sale newegg.

[Gman]

See Joach lots of good advice, the last poster saved you 1/3 the price of the 212 cooler.  As I said, if you look around, research, and get good advice you can save a lot.  Doing a crossfire or Sli dual video setup IS almost doable for your budget.  My old system is almost identical to the one two posts up, but I had dual crossfire 6850's.  It would play AH almost maxed at 1920.  Depending on what you need and what you currently use it may be a good step up and suit your needs too, and save you a LOT.  I sold mine for 600 as a good deal to a neighbor for example.

[cattb]

last note

I did my computer starting last year with christmas sales. I bought the xfx 6950 and seasonic 750 PSU on christmas deals. Then when we went to the cities in August this year I went to microcenter where they have pretty good deals on CPU  and motherboards. I finished between microcenter and newegg.

Unless your in a hurry, the christmas deals are not far away, if you decide to build something yourself.

This is my MB and CPU. I prefer Gigabyte, but to each thier own preference.
CPU:  i5 3570k - 200$
MD: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H - 190$

Also OCZ SSD carries a 5 year warranty versus some of the other competiters where theres are 3 year.
same as listed above in Gmans post.

[ebfd11]

I have upgraded my rig so many times its pitiful... Right now I have

i7 2700k processor
EVGA p77 FTW mb
16 gig ripjaw ram
Dual 570 hd EVGA vid cards
950 watt PC power and cooling power supply
Dual 1 tb hard drives in raid
All neatly stuffed into a NZXT 810 switch case

Btw I went back to air cooling.

This computer started it life as an eMachine computer fr wal mart.

Also so you know I'd like you to be aware of the upgrade big you will catch when you build your own rig.


Be aware... It's rather horrendous ...

LawnDart

[JOACH1M]

Thank you all guys for the PM's and posts in tips on all this computer stuff! I still have time to make a final descision whether I think I'm up for the task of doing this on my own! 

I really do appreciate the the support! 

[guncrasher]

one thing is forget the ssd for now, you can always add it later as it wont really make your computer faster.  as for having anything other than windows home not sure why you would need 32 gig of ram,  "people in the know" know that your computer wont use even 1/2 of it.  I got 16 gigs of ram and normally use about 40%.  of course there's some applications that will "use" all 32 but none of them are games.


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[Gman]

Forget the ssd? I would say not.  Maybe it won't make his pc any faster in terms of frames per second, but it will cut boot times to under 7 seconds, and any games on the ssd drive will load much faster than on a spinner drive.  If the op doesn't care about slower boot and slower primary game loads and data access, then yes solid advice.  

Advising to just simply add an ssd later means a system reformat most likely in order to move the operating system to it, which is the main point of having an ssd imo. I.E. A big PITA to do it later.  Yes i know someone will bring up cloning and image software to move the os later, but for a gaming system this is buggy and unstable from what I've read.

TD puts 32 gigs in many of his builds, I personally don't but just mentioned it originally so the OP would about it, and why TD does it that way.  Also, people in the know "know" that games like Roberts new wing commander thing will use 32 gigs as will others eventually, so they recommend buying Ram now while it is very cheap as a future proofing strategy.   I don't subscribe to this either, but having more information never hurts.  I only put 16 in the build list I recommended for Joachim as his budget makes frivolous expenditure on RAM for the future bad advice.

[Bizman]

A simple question concerning boot times and game loadup times, especially the latter: How much does it really mean, if you can cut out seconds in startup times? Doesn't that mean, that you have to have a leak and visit the refridgerator before playing rather than doing those tasks during the loadup time? Tonight we spent about half an hour waiting for permission to take off after the announced scenario starting time, although we were supposed to be there half an hour before. It adds to a full hour of waiting time, during which any computer could have been rebooted/cold booted numerous times.

Like a Finnish excercise guru said: "A sprinter works hard to run 1/100 of a second faster. How is he going to use the time he spared?"

Just my 2 cents