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Offline TwinBoom

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50 Years ago October
« on: November 02, 2012, 05:33:24 PM »
50 years ago , at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis, second-in-command Vasilli Arkhipov of the Soviet submarine B-59 refused to agree with his Captain's order to launch nuclear torpedos against US warships and setting off what might well have been a terminal superpower nuclear war.

The US had been dropping depth charges near the submarine in an attempt to force it to surface, unaware it was carrying nuclear arms. The Soviet officers, who had lost radio contact with Moscow, concluded that World War 3 had begun, and 2 of the officers agreed to 'blast the warships out of the water'. Arkhipov refused to agree - unanimous consent of 3 officers was required - and thanks to him, we are here to talk about it.

His story is finally being told - the BBC is airing a documentary on it.

Raise a glass to Vasilli Arkhipov - the Man Who Saved the World.

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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2012, 05:37:03 PM »
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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 05:54:25 PM »
Nobody could blame him had he gone the other way. After all, the U.S. warships were attacking with depth charges.


To me it sounds like he was mutinous and guilty of conduct unbecoming of an officer.


What a way to stumble into the history books huh?


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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 07:29:06 PM »
Nobody could blame him had he gone the other way. After all, the U.S. warships were attacking with depth charges.


To me it sounds like he was mutinous and guilty of conduct unbecoming of an officer.


What a way to stumble into the history books huh?


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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 07:30:04 PM »
- unanimous consent of 3 officers was required -

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This means he had a choice, and made it. Thats not mutiny.






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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 07:31:14 PM »
This means he had a choice, and made it. Thats not mutiny.






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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 08:06:53 PM »
Although he was the second in command of the Sub B59, he was also the commander of the Submarine Flotilla and held equal rank with the captain of B59.

There was no mutinous action there.

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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 08:47:53 PM »
Nobody could blame him had he gone the other way. After all, the U.S. warships were attacking with depth charges.


To me it sounds like he was mutinous and guilty of conduct unbecoming of an officer.


What a way to stumble into the history books huh?


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The US was not attacking with depth charges.  The US ships were dropping practice depth charges in order to signal the submarine to surface after trying to send radio messages but the US didn't know the submarine had lost communications.

In any event, I think we all owe a very large debt of gratitude towards Vasilli Arkhipov.  It was also the event that forced Khrushchev to realize that he had potentially lost control of his forces and help end the Cuban Missile Crisis.


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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 08:49:56 PM »
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Sucks he didn't get the recognition he deserved when he was still alive.

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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2012, 01:08:27 AM »
I never knew this  :salute :salute :salute
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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2012, 01:52:34 AM »
The US ships were dropping practice depth charges in order to signal the submarine to surface



In the middle of World War 3, there isn't such a thing as "practice depth charges".


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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2012, 04:02:26 AM »
Interesting stuff. I never heard about that. Has the documentary already aired or is it something that is upcoming?
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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2012, 05:50:52 AM »
Never heard this story before.

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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2012, 06:08:18 AM »
The US was not attacking with depth charges.  The US ships were dropping practice depth charges in order to signal the submarine to surface after trying to send radio messages but the US didn't know the submarine had lost communications.

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Re: 50 Years ago October
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2012, 07:43:34 AM »
It sounds very similiar to that sub movie with Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman - I forget the name of it.