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« on: November 09, 2012, 06:08:09 PM »
#1 Pretty much just making it so when you land kills and have assists it 'announces' them too.  "Tinkles landed 3 kills 2 assists in a P38L".

#2 Assists should have perk value.  If Tom kills a target and gets 3 points and I get the assist, I should get 1/3rd of what he got.  Because having assists count as NOTHING now, is quite aggravating.    :furious

#3 Said it before I'll say it again.  After a map is won if the player contributed enough to the war effort should at least be rewarded a fraction of the 20 perkies.  Ex. I helped a lot in the last map for Bish, when we won the war I wasn't online (I have a life  :O).  So I come back to find out we won, and I missed the reward... again.  Yeah I know it isn't "alot" of perks but that isn't the point. So for this, just make it so once the player reaches what is necessary, they can receive War Won Perks when they log back in.

Just my opinion.

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Re: Assists
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 06:18:48 PM »
Because having assists count as NOTHING now, is quite aggravating. 

Not entirely nothing; assists count towards your score (Kill Points)
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Re: Assists
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2012, 07:30:11 PM »
Not entirely nothing; assists count towards your score (Kill Points)

Yeah, but you know what I mean.  You should get some sort of perk reward for getting an assist instead of just the pop up. 
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Re: Assists
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 07:40:30 PM »
You should get some sort of perk reward for getting an assist instead of just the pop up. 

No, you shouldn't  :old:
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Re: Assists
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 07:46:19 PM »
No, you shouldn't  :old:

I agree with this, otherwise we'd risk having players flying around just to ping everything in sight for the reward.

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2012, 08:52:49 PM »
#1 Pretty much just making it so when you land kills and have assists it 'announces' them too.  "Tinkles landed 3 kills 2 assists in a P38L".
Um...No.

#2 Assists should have perk value.  If Tom kills a target and gets 3 points and I get the assist, I should get 1/3rd of what he got.  Because having assists count as NOTHING now, is quite aggravating.    :furious
It shows on your Score.  Maybe if it was flopped?  Getting an assist gives you 10%, you have nothing show in your Score?  But let's entertain this idea a tad more.  1/3 of what he gets for it?  No.  25% AT MOST, is more plausible, and this is assuming you actually did some damage (parts falling off).

#3 Said it before I'll say it again.  After a map is won if the player contributed enough to the war effort should at least be rewarded a fraction of the 20 perkies.  Ex. I helped a lot in the last map for Bish, when we won the war I wasn't online (I have a life  :O).  So I come back to find out we won, and I missed the reward... again.  Yeah I know it isn't "alot" of perks but that isn't the point. So for this, just make it so once the player reaches what is necessary, they can receive War Won Perks when they log back in.
If I remember correctly, you have to fly a certain amount of time (forgot how long) on the map, on one side to get the reward.  If you put in the time on that map with that side, then I don't see why you wouldn't get rewarded upon log in of new map...providing you didn't change sides. :headscratch:

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Re: Assists
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2012, 01:26:46 AM »
No, you shouldn't  :old:

I respectfully disagree. I've done what I thought was great damage against planes and gvs before to find out I never gotten an assist.  

I agree with this, otherwise we'd risk having players flying around just to ping everything in sight for the reward.

I don't believe so. Most of the time it's one fighter against 2+ and most of the time it's in hordes lol.
Seriously though, sure a few people might randomly hit a plane before it goes down and get a few perks, most they would possibly get is 1-2 perks (maybe more, but most I've ever received was 6 perks for one kill; and it only happened once).  I think that assists should be rewarded, in a wirb I've had 3 kills 8 assists, yet only received the reward for the "confirmed kills".  I think that's wrong.  Not asking for alot.  Maybe even making it so each assist is maybe .15 perks or more, at least make assists worth SOMETHING besides a pop-up.

 
If I remember correctly, you have to fly a certain amount of time (forgot how long) on the map, on one side to get the reward.  If you put in the time on that map with that side, then I don't see why you wouldn't get rewarded upon log in of new map...providing you didn't change sides.

I think it should be a set amount of kills or damage (for bomber pilots out there) before your eligible for the what I would call "Offline Rewards Program".  So if the set limit is 30 kills per map, and I get 35; and for whatever reason I am not online when my side wins the war then next time I log on it will say "Offline Reward Perks Awarded", and I receive either the full amount or a portion.
I see absolutely no reason why this shouldn't be added, I've seen others get "ripped off" of their rewards when they had to leave for a real life reason (including myself).  Again, I don't see why this shouldn't be implemented.



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« Last Edit: November 10, 2012, 01:37:31 AM by Tinkles »
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Re: Assists
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2012, 08:30:02 AM »
Hows about we get rid of assists all together, eh? No more assists, no more headache about whether or not they should count for something.....  :devil :devil

What were the airmen who winged with the guys who got the kills credited with in real life? I don't know if anyone was ever awarded any medals for 'assists'.

Problem with making assists count for any more than what they do is people would actually horde more than they do now, within a furball, as soon as someone sprouts an oil leak!  :lol
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Re: Assists
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2012, 08:53:25 AM »
I agree with this, otherwise we'd risk having players flying around just to ping everything in sight for the reward.

Wait... You don't have that now?  :O

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Re: Assists
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2012, 09:14:00 AM »
 :aok  I agree with the part of posting it in the System message that would be kind of neat. I do see the other side of it though that people would prob just fly around pinging planes for assists if it meant getting perk points  :mad:. It would be cool though to show the assists there has been times i have landed a few assists in bombers would be nice to see it pop up give you a little credit at least as a small conciliation to not getting perks for it.
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Re: Assists
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2012, 10:18:47 AM »
Never had a problem with the way it is. Sometimes I cuss when it seems like I beat the crap out of an enemy aircraft and still end up with an assist, but a lot of that is due to perception. I could go either way on a "name in lights" in the buffer, but it's not that important to me.
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Re: Assists
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2012, 10:33:13 AM »
#1 Pretty much just making it so when you land kills and have assists it 'announces' them too.  "Tinkles landed 3 kills 2 assists in a P38L".

#2 Assists should have perk value.  If Tom kills a target and gets 3 points and I get the assist, I should get 1/3rd of what he got.  Because having assists count as NOTHING now, is quite aggravating.    :furious

#3 Said it before I'll say it again.  After a map is won if the player contributed enough to the war effort should at least be rewarded a fraction of the 20 perkies.  Ex. I helped a lot in the last map for Bish, when we won the war I wasn't online (I have a life  :O).  So I come back to find out we won, and I missed the reward... again.  Yeah I know it isn't "alot" of perks but that isn't the point. So for this, just make it so once the player reaches what is necessary, they can receive War Won Perks when they log back in.

Just my opinion.

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The announcement when you land kills is just that, an announcement of an accomplishment, 2 kills (it use to be one kill but it cluttered up the text buffer so they changed it to 2). If you did NOT make the 2 kills you did NOT accomplish enough, or you failed. So you want an announcement that your NOT good enough to get the 2, or finish a guy off?

The same goes for the points/perks. You didn't finish the job, so why should you get credit for it? You put a few pings in a wing, just enough to tweak a bit of aluminum and you want credit?  You didn't damage the plane enough to effect it's flying ability and you want credit for shooting it down?

As for the third, It use to be that as long as your on the team that wins for more than 12 hours strait, you get the perks even if you are not on line at the time of the win. From what I've read it doesn't seem to be that way any more, but I can see why. Say you spend 5 hours "helping" your team win the war and tho they still need 3 or 4 bases to win you have to log off. 12 hours later you log on to find they did win the war, but what you don't know is that in that 12 hours they had been pushed back almost to the point of the Rooks winning the war. They held off the advance, and pushed back to finally take the win, none of which you were involved with.

You have only been flying for a few months (since July). With time you will get better and the assists will go down and the kills will go up. If you get out of the field guns and spend more time getting better at flying you will also start building perks. Flying something other than "hot rods" will build them quicker. You'll find in a few hours of flying you can build more perks than you can "win" for for being on line for the win the war. Enjoy your time flying and "helping" with the war effort and stop worrying about points and perks. All that will come when you get better at what you are doing. Of course by then you most likely wont care all that much about the points and perks as you'll be too busy having fun playing the game.  :aok

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Re: Assists
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2012, 10:41:09 AM »
#1 No

#2 No

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2012, 02:13:25 PM »
baaa...stay away from green hoards and you wont get very many assists :aok

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Re: Assists
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2012, 04:18:07 PM »
The announcement when you land kills is just that, an announcement of an accomplishment, 2 kills (it use to be one kill but it cluttered up the text buffer so they changed it to 2). If you did NOT make the 2 kills you did NOT accomplish enough, or you failed. So you want an announcement that your NOT good enough to get the 2, or finish a guy off? No, I want to make it so instead, if  I have 2 kills then whatever assists I have be listed as well.  If I only have assists, than it wouldn't announce it.

The same goes for the points/perks. You didn't finish the job, so why should you get credit for it? You put a few pings in a wing, just enough to tweak a bit of aluminum and you want credit?  You didn't damage the plane enough to effect it's flying ability and you want credit for shooting it down? When I get an assist I did damage, not just bullet holes in the wing.

As for the third, It use to be that as long as your on the team that wins for more than 12 hours strait, you get the perks even if you are not on line at the time of the win. From what I've read it doesn't seem to be that way any more, but I can see why. Say you spend 5 hours "helping" your team win the war and tho they still need 3 or 4 bases to win you have to log off. 12 hours later you log on to find they did win the war, but what you don't know is that in that 12 hours they had been pushed back almost to the point of the Rooks winning the war. They held off the advance, and pushed back to finally take the win, none of which you were involved with. I understand your point on this, but this is where I have my argument... I normally am there just before the we win the war, (actually have logged on sometimes RIGHT after we won) then I have to log just before we win.  Mostly because of the time or real life responsibilities. Not asking for the full reward (I think its 20 points), just asking for a portion of that.  I don't count score as "what defines me as a player" I count my Perks :), that's why I don't spend them.  At least not until I master one of the higher perk planes (262).

You have only been flying for a few months (since July). With time you will get better and the assists will go down and the kills will go up. If you get out of the field guns and spend more time getting better at flying you will also start building perks. Flying something other than "hot rods" will build them quicker. You'll find in a few hours of flying you can build more perks than you can "win" for for being on line for the win the war. Enjoy your time flying and "helping" with the war effort and stop worrying about points and perks. All that will come when you get better at what you are doing. Of course by then you most likely wont care all that much about the points and perks as you'll be too busy having fun playing the game.  :aok   You apparently haven't seen me in an 88.   :salute
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