Convergence Considerations

[Slade]

Hello,

On the topic of convergence I'd like your feedback please.  I have used and continue to use multiple settings for various planes and environments.  

* With the .50 cal birds sometimes I'll set them all to 400.  Other times I'll overlap them: 400,375,350 OR even as crazy as 400,500,600 etc.

* With cannons (20mm) I usually set them to 325.  Sometimes though, with multi-cannon birds and going against a horde I may use 500 and 600 OR even 550 and 650 (no time to dogfight or lose any E kinda flying).

* With .303 birds I put them all on 250 OR start them at 250 and overlap outward.

Here is the kicker...I have been successful with ALL these settings (in the right scenario of course).  

What are your findings and practices with convergence?


Thanks for sharing,

Slade  

[titanic3]

Everything to 300.

[Slade]

Everything to 300.

titanic3 300 is not displayed as a range for an enemy target during flight (800,600,400...).  So at what range do you start to shoot?

Thanks.

[Hap]

I stagger the 50's 25 yds apart.  375, 350, 325.  W/Jug when i use 4 guns, I add 400.

Works great.  You don't have to put em down to get the kill.  A good first bite frequently gets me the message that I killed so and so after I'm off to find someone else to take a chunk out of.

[Ack-Ack]

I've left my convergence at default for the P-38s and fire at 400 yards or less to greatly increase my chances of a kill on the first burst.

ack-ack

[icepac]

I set the convergence settings for the vertical and don't really care about horizontal convergence.

Mine are set so all shells converge in the vertical very far out for buff hunting planes and it seems to work just as well close up......but then most of the guns on the planes I fly are in the fuselage.

[SmokinLoon]

Everything for air to air stuff is set to 300 and I do not fire once the target shows 600.  The only exception is when I am in a 8 gun P47 performing escort duty.  Then I set convergent to 400.

If I am bomber hunting then everything is at 400 yards, save for the Me410's 50mm which is set to 600.

If I am pounding grounds targets then I have everything set to 400. 

K.I.S.S.

[titanic3]

titanic3 300 is not displayed as a range for an enemy target during flight (800,600,400...).  So at what range do you start to shoot?

Thanks.

The moment 400 switches to 200, that's the 300 mark. Likewise, when 600 switches to 400, it is 500. 800 to 600, it is 700. When I shoot depends on what plane I'm in.

MK108s, 400 or less.
MG151s, 400 or less.
.50 Cals, 600 or less.
Hispanos, 300 or less. (the wing mounted ones anyways)
Ho-5, 400 or less.
MK103s, 800 or less.
.303s, 200 or less.

[RedBull1]

50. cals really don't matter to me, but generally I have 50 cals between 350-450
Hispanos probably 350
German/Jap 20's either 350 or 650
MK108 300 even
.303's 300
Generally for most BB's that go along with cannon rides Ex. Ki84, 109k4, 190's, etc. I will set the BB's to the same convergence as my cannons.

[SmokinLoon]

50. cals really don't matter to me, but generally I have 50 cals between 350-450
Hispanos probably 350
German/Jap 20's either 350 or 650
MK108 300 even
.303's 300
Generally for most BB's that go along with cannon rides Ex. Ki84, 109k4, 190's, etc. I will set the BB's to the same convergence as my cannons.

I'm just curious... but why are you all over the map for the same type of plane (fighters).  Do you aim differently based on which aircraft you're in?  I would think that you'd aim the same way if you were dog fighting in a Spitfire, Ki-84, zeke, 109, P51, F4U, etc, because your shots are usually all within a specified target zone (200-400, etc).  If your shots are going to be different because of the type of ACM's you'll be using (turn and saddle up vs boom n zoom snap shot) then I can see the difference.  I'm just curious.

[Banshee7]

The moment 400 switches to 200, that's the 300 mark.

I thought it was 399?

0-199
200-399
400-599
600-799
800-999

#S#



Josh

[titanic3]

I thought it was 399?

0-199
200-399
400-599
600-799
800-999

#S#



Josh

Hmm, could be, last I saw a similar topic, someone said 300. Either way, I don't pay much attention to distance. Generally, I'll shoot at the ranges I mentioned, but if I think I can hit them from 800 with a tater, I'll try it anyway. It's more about "feeling" the bullet rather "aiming" the bullet. Not sure how to describe it exactly, but I when I fire, I walk the tracers in, I don't aim for a specific point.

[RedBull1]

I'm just curious... but why are you all over the map for the same type of plane (fighters).  Do you aim differently based on which aircraft you're in?  I would think that you'd aim the same way if you were dog fighting in a Spitfire, Ki-84, zeke, 109, P51, F4U, etc, because your shots are usually all within a specified target zone (200-400, etc).  If your shots are going to be different because of the type of ACM's you'll be using (turn and saddle up vs boom n zoom snap shot) then I can see the difference.  I'm just curious.

Well yes, I aim differently depending on what aircraft I am flying because, most planes have different guns, therefore different gun trajectories, therefore different leads, convergences, etc.
ACM plays a big part as how hard both you and the enemy obviously play a role in how much you will lead that specific plane in that specific maneuver.
My shots will range all the way up to 600-1000 yards, this of course depending on what plane I am in, and what the situation is, but it is rare I shoot outside of ~700 yards, my average is 200-600 yard shots.
You wouldn't aim the same was in a spitfire as you would a 109, zeke, ki84, etc. as the guns are totally different.
If that makes sense? Anyway hope I answered your question 

 

[mtnman]

I thought it was 399?

0-199
200-399
400-599
600-799
800-999

#S#
Josh

No, Titanic has it correct.

The icon counter switches from D400 to D200 at 300 yards (or 299, I forget).

Thedistance midway between the icon counters is the distance they all switch.  

This can be verified with the film viewer.

Setting your convergence for either 300 or 500 yards allows you to capitalize on "knowing" you're firing at convergence distance if you fire right around the time the icon changes from D400 to D200, etc...  Essentially 300 and 500 yards are convergence "sweet spots" with the 300 yards setting substantially superior IMO.

[MK-84]

ME262 450/500
American .50s 400
FW190's and 109's all guns 400

All Japanese except for the niki, 250 cannon, 350 mgs

Niki 250/300