GV Turnovers

[Tank-Ace]

Yes its possible to roll tanks in real life.

The tank appears to be a panther. Looks to have either been flipped by blast (although it seems a bit unlikely that the only visible result of being near a blast capable of flipping [and presumably moving a fair distance] 45 tons of steel, is a crushed turret, which likely was a result of being flipped upside down.), or rolled into an AT ditch, or when the driver drew too near to the edge of a hill.


If it wasn't blast (and it doesn't look to be), crew would most likely be alive, and would have had to scrape away some dirt before they could wriggle out of there,

[skorpx1]

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bad things happen to bad tanks   

If you ask me this is an early version of the Tiger 1. It has a smaller gun and a slightly different turret. Original Tigers were fitted with a 75mm HV cannon.

[Tank-Ace]

If you ask me this is an early version of the Tiger 1. It has a smaller gun and a slightly different turret. Original Tigers were fitted with a 75mm HV cannon.

Actually, none of us were right; its actually a Tiger II  . Count the road wheels; its got 9, while both the Tiger I and Panther had 8.


Would also explain why it has the flat turret front, and bell style gun mantlet. That was bugging me.

Original Tigers were fitted with a 75mm HV cannon.

Uhhh.... source  ?


If it just says a 75mm HV cannon, then I'm not so sure about its reliability. I haven't heard the early models mounted a 75mm, if they dug deep enough to find the information they probably would have listed what gun it was (the only one that it could possibly be is the KwK 42 L/70), the entire damn turret was designed to house the 88mm, and they already had the Panther in the works, which was going to mount the 75mm L/70, so the Tiger I mounting the same gun would not only be redundant, but stupid, considering the Panther was a better tank overall.


Just saying, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, aside from something like a prototype, so you can test the chassis while you're trying to cram the 88 into it.

[skorpx1]

Actually, none of us were right; its actually a Tiger II  . Count the road wheels; its got 9, while both the Tiger I and Panther had 8.


Would also explain why it has the flat turret front, and bell style gun mantlet. That was bugging me.

 Uhhh.... source  ?


If it just says a 75mm HV cannon, then I'm not so sure about its reliability. I haven't heard the early models mounted a 75mm, if they dug deep enough to find the information they probably would have listed what gun it was (the only one that it could possibly be is the KwK 42 L/70), the entire damn turret was designed to house the 88mm, and they already had the Panther in the works, which was going to mount the 75mm L/70, so the Tiger I mounting the same gun would not only be redundant, but stupid, considering the Panther was a better tank overall.


Just saying, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, aside from something like a prototype, so you can test the chassis while you're trying to cram the 88 into it.

The gun doesn't look like an 88mm off of a Tiger 2.

 Also the early Tiger 1's were fitted with 75mm cannons, only about 20-ish made it out until Heetla  (or some other Wehrmacht officer) decided they needed 88mm cannons. I couldn't find the source of where I saw it, mainly because I saw it about a year ago.

Could have been a prototypes, or it could have been an actual design. Who knows.

[Tank-Ace]

The gun doesn't look like an 88mm off of a Tiger 2.

And so? It doesn't look like the Tiger I's 88mm, or the Panther's 75mm. Based solely on the apperance of the gun barrel, it most closely resembles a Panzer III, and only because its the only tank in the German inventory to mount a gun of even close to the length of the one in the picture without a muzzle break as standard.

Considering that hull and turret shape, and style of gun mantle both support it being a Tiger II, and the road wheel configuration insists rather loudly that its a Tiger II, I'm going to say that the gun barrel broke, and that its a Tiger II.

Also the early Tiger 1's were fitted with 75mm cannons, only about 20-ish made it out until Heetla  (or some other Wehrmacht officer) decided they needed 88mm cannons. I couldn't find the source of where I saw it, mainly because I saw it about a year ago.

Could have been a prototypes, or it could have been an actual design. Who knows.

So you saw a photograph of a Tiger I labled as a Tiger I mounting a 75mm (with the lable on the picture itself and probably hand-written mind you, not typed on the web page you saw the picture on, or in the image code)? And you can't find the source, which isn't too suprising.


Well, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and chalk it up to either a prototype, or mislabled photograph.